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  3. The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.

The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.

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  • hedders@mas.toH hedders@mas.to

    @neil I do worry that we're seeing the beginning of the end of personal computing, in the sense of being able to own a machine that you control and that does your bidding.

    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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    @hedders Exactly this.

    Admittedly, Apple was perhaps already further down the "appliance, not computer" path with iOS than some others, but still...

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    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

      The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.

      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #4

      Perhaps I am some kind of dangerous computer radical these days, thinking that one should be able to buy or make a computer, install one's choice of OSs and software, create a local user account, and get on with one's affairs, privately and without interference.

      Quiet enjoyment of one's computer.

      * No age or ID verification

      * No jumping through hoops to install software, or third parties restricting the software that one can run

      * No third party accounts

      slothrop@chaos.socialS emily_s@mastodon.me.ukE mr_teatime@social.tchncs.deM 3 Replies Last reply
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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

        Perhaps I am some kind of dangerous computer radical these days, thinking that one should be able to buy or make a computer, install one's choice of OSs and software, create a local user account, and get on with one's affairs, privately and without interference.

        Quiet enjoyment of one's computer.

        * No age or ID verification

        * No jumping through hoops to install software, or third parties restricting the software that one can run

        * No third party accounts

        slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        Y’know @neil one of these days you’re going to wake up and find you’ve become a revolutionary anarchist, relatively speaking.

        Same here. My opinions remain fairly constant, but the Overton Window almost keeps rushing past.

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        • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

          Y’know @neil one of these days you’re going to wake up and find you’ve become a revolutionary anarchist, relatively speaking.

          Same here. My opinions remain fairly constant, but the Overton Window almost keeps rushing past.

          neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @slothrop

          > you're going to wake up and find you’ve become a revolutionary anarchist

          Wow. I sound *sexy*.

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          • hedders@mas.toH hedders@mas.to

            @neil I do worry that we're seeing the beginning of the end of personal computing, in the sense of being able to own a machine that you control and that does your bidding.

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            @hedders @neil I have always considered my computers to be more like cats. They never do my bidding and will often do the exact opposite of what I want before vomiting everywhere. But at least they are independent.

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            • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

              @hedders @neil I have always considered my computers to be more like cats. They never do my bidding and will often do the exact opposite of what I want before vomiting everywhere. But at least they are independent.

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              @dan Hah! That made me laugh.

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                Perhaps I am some kind of dangerous computer radical these days, thinking that one should be able to buy or make a computer, install one's choice of OSs and software, create a local user account, and get on with one's affairs, privately and without interference.

                Quiet enjoyment of one's computer.

                * No age or ID verification

                * No jumping through hoops to install software, or third parties restricting the software that one can run

                * No third party accounts

                emily_s@mastodon.me.ukE This user is from outside of this forum
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                @neil There is exactly one person who gets to decide what happens in my computer. Me.

                If you want to run things in my world, you play by my rules and only my rules.

                Wait Shit. Am I'm turning in to a conservative, I want things to remain how they were twenty years ago... Is this is what they meant about getting more conservative when you get older?

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                • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                  Y’know @neil one of these days you’re going to wake up and find you’ve become a revolutionary anarchist, relatively speaking.

                  Same here. My opinions remain fairly constant, but the Overton Window almost keeps rushing past.

                  jannem@fosstodon.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @slothrop @neil
                  You know, I'm in my fifties. And over the past 40 years I've gone from a liberal centrist to a socialist radical, without changing my opinions.

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                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                    The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.

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                    #11

                    @neil I think we've already gone that way with cars. It's difficult (impossible?) to buy one now that just belongs to you with mno ties to the manufacturer or seller.
                    Yet we all accept it.

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                    • mikecox@mastodon.iow.socialM mikecox@mastodon.iow.social

                      @neil I think we've already gone that way with cars. It's difficult (impossible?) to buy one now that just belongs to you with mno ties to the manufacturer or seller.
                      Yet we all accept it.

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                      #12

                      @mikecox This is indeed one of the reasons why I am struggling to replace my car at the moment, because I don't want to accept that.

                      I might not get what I want.

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                        @thinkb4u @Em0nM4stodon

                        The fact that it is happening is what is baffling me.

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                        • emily_s@mastodon.me.ukE emily_s@mastodon.me.uk

                          @neil There is exactly one person who gets to decide what happens in my computer. Me.

                          If you want to run things in my world, you play by my rules and only my rules.

                          Wait Shit. Am I'm turning in to a conservative, I want things to remain how they were twenty years ago... Is this is what they meant about getting more conservative when you get older?

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                          @emily_s No, Conservatives want things to remain the same because they control them, change threatens that control. You want to control any changes you make, that is different.

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                          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                            @mikecox This is indeed one of the reasons why I am struggling to replace my car at the moment, because I don't want to accept that.

                            I might not get what I want.

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                            @neil @mikecox I suspect it's going to be hard to disable too as the connection is, I assume, shared with the SOS systems.

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                            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                              @thinkb4u @Em0nM4stodon

                              The fact that it is happening is what is baffling me.

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                              @neil
                              Increased Shareholder Value as always.
                              @thinkb4u @Em0nM4stodon

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                              • aadeacon@mastodon.socialA aadeacon@mastodon.social

                                @emily_s No, Conservatives want things to remain the same because they control them, change threatens that control. You want to control any changes you make, that is different.

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                                @aadeacon But I do currently control my computer, and I want to retain that control... I do not want someone else to take away the control I already have over my things

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                                  @Tak Yes, computers.

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                                    @Kantikainen @SuperMoosie Yes, and that is fine *while that remains an option*.

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                                    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                      @slothrop

                                      > you're going to wake up and find you’ve become a revolutionary anarchist

                                      Wow. I sound *sexy*.

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                                      @neil

                                      I think we all sound sexy in our own minds?
                                      Do we not?
                                      😂

                                      @slothrop

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                                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                        The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.

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                                        @neil Build your own OS and no more verification.
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                                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                          The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.

                                          zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @neil Haha! got out before this gets a hellthread again!
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