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  3. The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.

The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.

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  • emily_s@mastodon.me.ukE emily_s@mastodon.me.uk

    @neil There is exactly one person who gets to decide what happens in my computer. Me.

    If you want to run things in my world, you play by my rules and only my rules.

    Wait Shit. Am I'm turning in to a conservative, I want things to remain how they were twenty years ago... Is this is what they meant about getting more conservative when you get older?

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    @emily_s No, Conservatives want things to remain the same because they control them, change threatens that control. You want to control any changes you make, that is different.

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    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

      @mikecox This is indeed one of the reasons why I am struggling to replace my car at the moment, because I don't want to accept that.

      I might not get what I want.

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      @neil @mikecox I suspect it's going to be hard to disable too as the connection is, I assume, shared with the SOS systems.

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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

        @thinkb4u @Em0nM4stodon

        The fact that it is happening is what is baffling me.

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        @neil
        Increased Shareholder Value as always.
        @thinkb4u @Em0nM4stodon

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        • aadeacon@mastodon.socialA aadeacon@mastodon.social

          @emily_s No, Conservatives want things to remain the same because they control them, change threatens that control. You want to control any changes you make, that is different.

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          @aadeacon But I do currently control my computer, and I want to retain that control... I do not want someone else to take away the control I already have over my things

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            @Tak Yes, computers.

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              @Kantikainen @SuperMoosie Yes, and that is fine *while that remains an option*.

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                @slothrop

                > you're going to wake up and find you’ve become a revolutionary anarchist

                Wow. I sound *sexy*.

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                @neil

                I think we all sound sexy in our own minds?
                Do we not?
                😂

                @slothrop

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                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                  The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.

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                  @neil Build your own OS and no more verification.
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                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                    The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.

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                    @neil Haha! got out before this gets a hellthread again!
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                      @zer0unplanned A practical suggestion, thanks!

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                        @jerrymassloII

                        > I believe a distinction is necessary between using a computer as a personal tool and using it as a means of communication

                        I don't!

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                          @lydiaconwell Well thank goodness for that! 🙂

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                            @janneke

                            > Age verification has nothing to do with "using one's own computer", it's about running the software on a [your] computer

                            And running software on a computer is a form of using it...

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                              @joostvb Having seen the speed at which some developers started to implement age-related measures in FOSS, I am unconvinced that this will be limited to proprietary software. @janneke

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                              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                @joostvb Having seen the speed at which some developers started to implement age-related measures in FOSS, I am unconvinced that this will be limited to proprietary software. @janneke

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                                @joostvb

                                And that would be a shame, but I think that we are heading towards a rougher environment for all of us who like to use our computers as we wish.

                                @janneke

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                                  @elle @mntmn @hedders @frameworkcomputer @bunnie

                                  Sadly, I don't think that they apologised for their "big tent" mess up 😞

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                                    @danwwilson @neil Definitely 😀

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                                      @plock @neil
                                      there are many legal limits on the economic activities of minors
                                      they can buy an ice cream but not open an ice cream shop

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                                      • jerrymassloii@mastodon.unoJ jerrymassloii@mastodon.uno

                                        @plock @neil
                                        there are many legal limits on the economic activities of minors
                                        they can buy an ice cream but not open an ice cream shop

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                                        @jerrymassloII @plock

                                        Please drop me out of this thread. By all means continue this discussion, but I don't wish to be part of it.

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                                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                          Perhaps I am some kind of dangerous computer radical these days, thinking that one should be able to buy or make a computer, install one's choice of OSs and software, create a local user account, and get on with one's affairs, privately and without interference.

                                          Quiet enjoyment of one's computer.

                                          * No age or ID verification

                                          * No jumping through hoops to install software, or third parties restricting the software that one can run

                                          * No third party accounts

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                                          @neil

                                          Waaait, is that what Windows 11 does these days?
                                          Reminds me a bit of that moment, after I stopped watching TV (in favour of a not-much-better web-surfing habit…), when I noticed at a friends place just how awful TV ads were after not seeing them for a year. How can anyone stand this stuff?

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