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  • janvlug@mastodon.socialJ janvlug@mastodon.social

    "Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone"

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    I use a #Librem5 #Linux #phone. With the default #PureOS operating system.

    Enjoy your #freedom, break free from #Google and #Apple.

    Have a full Linux computer in your pocket that you can also use for calling.

    Questions? Ask me.

    #opensource #digitalsovereignty #FOSS #MobileLinux #privacy

    jajo@mastodon.nuJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    jajo@mastodon.nu
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    @janvlug One important question, van it handle BankID and Swish? Made for bankhandling and monytransfer?

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    • janvlug@mastodon.socialJ janvlug@mastodon.social

      "Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone"

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      theregister (www.theregister.com)

      I use a #Librem5 #Linux #phone. With the default #PureOS operating system.

      Enjoy your #freedom, break free from #Google and #Apple.

      Have a full Linux computer in your pocket that you can also use for calling.

      Questions? Ask me.

      #opensource #digitalsovereignty #FOSS #MobileLinux #privacy

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      ryan@hcommons.social
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      @janvlug im on Furilabs FL1Xs and the screen already cracked, also maps and bluetooth are really difficult. may end up on iphone soon

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      • dademurphy@toot.communityD dademurphy@toot.community

        @janvlug @purism you’re walling yourself off from the 99%of the planet that still uses one or the other.

        I am absolutely amazed at how bad y’all are willing to hobble your mobile experience because you think that makes you free.

        felipe@social.treehouse.systemsF This user is from outside of this forum
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        felipe@social.treehouse.systems
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        #24

        @dademurphy what exactly are you on about

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        • skulesz@mastodon.socialS skulesz@mastodon.social

          @dademurphy @janvlug @purism I only use my phone to call or text, have a couple of official apps I can't live without in Denmark, and for travel. everything else I can do in a browser.

          What exactly am I walling myself off from? People who didn't care about me?

          dademurphy@toot.communityD This user is from outside of this forum
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          @skulesz @janvlug@mastodon.social @purism Pretty sure I already answered that. 🙄

          If you’re using a device that isn’t compatible with Android or iOS products, you just hobbled your overall experience because you think you’re free to use a Linux phone when all you actually did was lock yourself behind a bigger wall. 🤦🏻‍♂️

          Hell, you would be better off with a basic flip phone if that’s all you do, why spend money on a device that will never catch on?

          benroyce@mastodon.socialB bob@beamship.mpaq.orgB 2 Replies Last reply
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          • janvlug@mastodon.socialJ janvlug@mastodon.social

            "Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone"

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            : Both Cupertino and Google are imposing ever stricter limits on their phones – but you have alternatives

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            theregister (www.theregister.com)

            I use a #Librem5 #Linux #phone. With the default #PureOS operating system.

            Enjoy your #freedom, break free from #Google and #Apple.

            Have a full Linux computer in your pocket that you can also use for calling.

            Questions? Ask me.

            #opensource #digitalsovereignty #FOSS #MobileLinux #privacy

            pwaring@social.xk7.netP This user is from outside of this forum
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            @janvlug Can you run apps that try to detect if you've rooted your phone, like banking apps (and in my country, even the official health app)?

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            • janvlug@mastodon.socialJ janvlug@mastodon.social

              "Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone"

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              : Both Cupertino and Google are imposing ever stricter limits on their phones – but you have alternatives

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              theregister (www.theregister.com)

              I use a #Librem5 #Linux #phone. With the default #PureOS operating system.

              Enjoy your #freedom, break free from #Google and #Apple.

              Have a full Linux computer in your pocket that you can also use for calling.

              Questions? Ask me.

              #opensource #digitalsovereignty #FOSS #MobileLinux #privacy

              moritz@social.heiber.imM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @janvlug @Gina How do you deal with Purism‘s enablement of fascists and Nazis by allowing them to utilize their platform as a safe harbor?

              PS: There are A TON of articles[^1] about them on the web concerning this topic, and you’d really be hard-pressed not to have heard of any of it; but maybe that’s the goal? “Free” hardware over anything?

              [1] Example: https://anarc.at/blog/2019-05-13-free-speech/

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              • dos@social.librem.oneD dos@social.librem.one

                @codo @janvlug
                You can easily turn any website into a webapp, whether it's defined as a PWA or not. Pic related.

                Battery, in my experience: 4-5 hours of active use; 12-14 hours of idling without sleeping; 22-24 hours in system suspend where it wakes up from calls and SMS.

                Calls and SMS have been reliable for me here in Poland, but it's always subject to carrier compatibility now with VoLTE.

                In general there's no need to reboot at all unless updating or working on the kernel.

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                @dos @janvlug Thank you both for the answers. I'd love to see Purism get better and more widely available, but I'm not prepared to be an adopter yet. I used to think my requirements were quite minimal, but when using the Librem I've realized all the functionality that I've been taking for granted on /e/OS.

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                • jajo@mastodon.nuJ jajo@mastodon.nu

                  @janvlug One important question, van it handle BankID and Swish? Made for bankhandling and monytransfer?

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                  @jajo @janvlug
                  No, not natively or through Waydroid currently.

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                  • janvlug@mastodon.socialJ janvlug@mastodon.social

                    "Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone"

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                    Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

                    : Both Cupertino and Google are imposing ever stricter limits on their phones – but you have alternatives

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                    theregister (www.theregister.com)

                    I use a #Librem5 #Linux #phone. With the default #PureOS operating system.

                    Enjoy your #freedom, break free from #Google and #Apple.

                    Have a full Linux computer in your pocket that you can also use for calling.

                    Questions? Ask me.

                    #opensource #digitalsovereignty #FOSS #MobileLinux #privacy

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                    cyb3rrunn3r@cyb3rrunn3r.de
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                    @janvlug@mastodon.social https://shop.nitrokey.com/shop/category/smartphone-tablet-4 maybe???

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                    • dademurphy@toot.communityD dademurphy@toot.community

                      @skulesz @janvlug@mastodon.social @purism Pretty sure I already answered that. 🙄

                      If you’re using a device that isn’t compatible with Android or iOS products, you just hobbled your overall experience because you think you’re free to use a Linux phone when all you actually did was lock yourself behind a bigger wall. 🤦🏻‍♂️

                      Hell, you would be better off with a basic flip phone if that’s all you do, why spend money on a device that will never catch on?

                      benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @dademurphy @skulesz @purism

                      hello troll account under one week old with no followers

                      you got some nice bites today!

                      congratulations on your boring garden variety "haha you suck. everything sucks. haha" edgelord shit

                      i'll bite too:

                      i'm old. i remember this heavy breathing bullshit about linux in the 1990s on slashdot

                      and how is linux doing today, my fine sir?

                      people are always trying new things. some suck. some are the future

                      that's it

                      you don't know the future, so fuck off shitwit

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                      • janvlug@mastodon.socialJ janvlug@mastodon.social

                        "Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone"

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                        Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

                        : Both Cupertino and Google are imposing ever stricter limits on their phones – but you have alternatives

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                        theregister (www.theregister.com)

                        I use a #Librem5 #Linux #phone. With the default #PureOS operating system.

                        Enjoy your #freedom, break free from #Google and #Apple.

                        Have a full Linux computer in your pocket that you can also use for calling.

                        Questions? Ask me.

                        #opensource #digitalsovereignty #FOSS #MobileLinux #privacy

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                        huntingdon@mstdn.social
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                        @janvlug

                        Sure, everyone can have a Librem5 smartphone, if they want to pay double for it and triple for the monthly access and fees.

                        Great idea. Needs a more affordable business model.

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                        • dademurphy@toot.communityD dademurphy@toot.community

                          @skulesz @janvlug@mastodon.social @purism Pretty sure I already answered that. 🙄

                          If you’re using a device that isn’t compatible with Android or iOS products, you just hobbled your overall experience because you think you’re free to use a Linux phone when all you actually did was lock yourself behind a bigger wall. 🤦🏻‍♂️

                          Hell, you would be better off with a basic flip phone if that’s all you do, why spend money on a device that will never catch on?

                          bob@beamship.mpaq.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          bob@beamship.mpaq.org
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                          @dademurphy @skulesz @purism

                          Is that anything like using MAC/Microsoft vs Linux???? Or are you just a corprite lapdog? Blocking you so i dont have to see your IQ

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                          • janvlug@mastodon.socialJ janvlug@mastodon.social

                            "Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone"

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                            Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

                            : Both Cupertino and Google are imposing ever stricter limits on their phones – but you have alternatives

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                            theregister (www.theregister.com)

                            I use a #Librem5 #Linux #phone. With the default #PureOS operating system.

                            Enjoy your #freedom, break free from #Google and #Apple.

                            Have a full Linux computer in your pocket that you can also use for calling.

                            Questions? Ask me.

                            #opensource #digitalsovereignty #FOSS #MobileLinux #privacy

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                            wellsaid@livellosegreto.it
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                            @janvlug
                            How do you deal with banking and government apps? Those are the main pain point for me since they usually do not work without gplay services

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                            • janvlug@mastodon.socialJ janvlug@mastodon.social

                              "Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone"

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                              Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

                              : Both Cupertino and Google are imposing ever stricter limits on their phones – but you have alternatives

                              favicon

                              theregister (www.theregister.com)

                              I use a #Librem5 #Linux #phone. With the default #PureOS operating system.

                              Enjoy your #freedom, break free from #Google and #Apple.

                              Have a full Linux computer in your pocket that you can also use for calling.

                              Questions? Ask me.

                              #opensource #digitalsovereignty #FOSS #MobileLinux #privacy

                              janneke@todon.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @janvlug
                              Just to be sure, which ones still count as mobile tracking devices?

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                              • janvlug@mastodon.socialJ janvlug@mastodon.social

                                "Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone"

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                                theregister (www.theregister.com)

                                I use a #Librem5 #Linux #phone. With the default #PureOS operating system.

                                Enjoy your #freedom, break free from #Google and #Apple.

                                Have a full Linux computer in your pocket that you can also use for calling.

                                Questions? Ask me.

                                #opensource #digitalsovereignty #FOSS #MobileLinux #privacy

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                                stonykark@mstdn.ca
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                                @janvlug what languages are the APIs available in?

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @dademurphy @skulesz @purism

                                  hello troll account under one week old with no followers

                                  you got some nice bites today!

                                  congratulations on your boring garden variety "haha you suck. everything sucks. haha" edgelord shit

                                  i'll bite too:

                                  i'm old. i remember this heavy breathing bullshit about linux in the 1990s on slashdot

                                  and how is linux doing today, my fine sir?

                                  people are always trying new things. some suck. some are the future

                                  that's it

                                  you don't know the future, so fuck off shitwit

                                  dademurphy@toot.communityD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @benroyce @skulesz@mastodon.social @purism How long am I supposed to wait until gatekeepers like yourself allow me to speak? Would my comment be any more/less accurate if I had been here for ten years with 1000 followers? No, only petty, ignorant people like yourself use such silly metrics.

                                  How is Linux doing? It’s still on the outside looking in, clown. Only tech savvy people use it, most still use a Mac or PC, just like most cell phone users use Android or iOS. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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                                  • dademurphy@toot.communityD dademurphy@toot.community

                                    @janvlug @purism you’re walling yourself off from the 99%of the planet that still uses one or the other.

                                    I am absolutely amazed at how bad y’all are willing to hobble your mobile experience because you think that makes you free.

                                    alienghic@timeloop.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @dademurphy

                                    Dude its just a tool and all the communication features are international standards and work with the purism.

                                    So what if it can't install popular software. That's not cutting himself off.

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @dademurphy @skulesz @purism

                                      hello troll account under one week old with no followers

                                      you got some nice bites today!

                                      congratulations on your boring garden variety "haha you suck. everything sucks. haha" edgelord shit

                                      i'll bite too:

                                      i'm old. i remember this heavy breathing bullshit about linux in the 1990s on slashdot

                                      and how is linux doing today, my fine sir?

                                      people are always trying new things. some suck. some are the future

                                      that's it

                                      you don't know the future, so fuck off shitwit

                                      benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      benroyce@mastodon.social
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                                      @dademurphy @skulesz @purism

                                      the only thing that confuses me about loser trolls like @dademurphy is they are champing at the bit for someone to take the bait. then someone does like me, and i get the idiotic reply, then the instablock

                                      why don't they want to play with me?

                                      because i shove their stupid shit right back at them?

                                      play with me trolls, i am here for you. let me help you with your weak cringe cope

                                      😂

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                                      • janvlug@mastodon.socialJ janvlug@mastodon.social

                                        "Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone"

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                                        Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

                                        : Both Cupertino and Google are imposing ever stricter limits on their phones – but you have alternatives

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                                        theregister (www.theregister.com)

                                        I use a #Librem5 #Linux #phone. With the default #PureOS operating system.

                                        Enjoy your #freedom, break free from #Google and #Apple.

                                        Have a full Linux computer in your pocket that you can also use for calling.

                                        Questions? Ask me.

                                        #opensource #digitalsovereignty #FOSS #MobileLinux #privacy

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                                        @janvlug If we want opensource mobile OSes to succeed, they need officially supported banking apps and identity verification apps. These are crucial to me but they only exist on iOS and Android.

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                                        • janvlug@mastodon.socialJ janvlug@mastodon.social

                                          "Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone"

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                                          Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

                                          : Both Cupertino and Google are imposing ever stricter limits on their phones – but you have alternatives

                                          favicon

                                          theregister (www.theregister.com)

                                          I use a #Librem5 #Linux #phone. With the default #PureOS operating system.

                                          Enjoy your #freedom, break free from #Google and #Apple.

                                          Have a full Linux computer in your pocket that you can also use for calling.

                                          Questions? Ask me.

                                          #opensource #digitalsovereignty #FOSS #MobileLinux #privacy

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                                          @janvlug Is encrypted messaging available? Signal?

                                          janvlug@mastodon.socialJ 1 Reply Last reply
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