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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 17 - 11 Apr - Ravières - Paris - Stuttgart - München - Budapest

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  • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

    @jon OuiGo is a subsidiary tho, that's not the same company 👀
    And I'm fairly sure the ticket gate disaster is a SNCF Gares&Connexions doing (and their own staff), not a SNCF Voyageurs. Someone in a desk high up thought about the "access to platform allowed only with valid ticket" rule too much

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    @hopla @jon Yeah, I mean for Thalys no one checks at the platform neither.

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    • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

      @jon OuiGo is a subsidiary tho, that's not the same company 👀
      And I'm fairly sure the ticket gate disaster is a SNCF Gares&Connexions doing (and their own staff), not a SNCF Voyageurs. Someone in a desk high up thought about the "access to platform allowed only with valid ticket" rule too much

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      @hopla @jon That's what all French say but it's really splitting hairs. It's a brand, sorry. Yes, they all say "mimimi other company" but at the end it's the same cartel and nothing more than a brand. Other countries reach there too.

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      • lewd@zug.networkL lewd@zug.network

        @hopla @jon That's what all French say but it's really splitting hairs. It's a brand, sorry. Yes, they all say "mimimi other company" but at the end it's the same cartel and nothing more than a brand. Other countries reach there too.

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        @lewd @hopla @jon in the end do they share the same staff training, certification or break room? Same company. (Tries not to go into real open access rant)

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          Ah the idiots have announced the platform but not opened the ticket gates. Well done! #SNCFlogic

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          @jon Auf dem Weg gerade nach Frankreich (heute Abend: Paris, morgen: Nizza)

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          • masek@infosec.exchangeM masek@infosec.exchange

            @jon Auf dem Weg gerade nach Frankreich (heute Abend: Paris, morgen: Nizza)

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            @jon P.S. Ich hasse die Gates in Frankreich 😏

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              And we’re going to have the really *amazing* crush here. The inOui platform will be announced 2 mins BEFORE the OUIGO leaves (20 mins vs 18 mins). So anyone running for the OUIGO is going to be stuck behind a crush of inOui passengers 😆 #SNCFlogic

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              @jon until this post, I thought that's about as bad as renfe in atocha boarding the 5min apart iryo and AVE from the same platform. But you prove me wrong, that's actually worse.

              (Anecdote: it took me a while to realise that I thought "something with yes" is how sncf calls their TGVs these days, until I noticed that they had two services, both called "something with yes".)

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              • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

                @jon Gradually this will also change as companies get their own security certification ^^ I could already spot Hexafret locos registered as F-HXF

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                @hopla Hang on. How is SNCF allowed to pass a locomotive containing asbestos to F-HXF but not to Transdev? 🤔

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                • maartje@blahaj.socialM maartje@blahaj.social

                  @lewd @hopla @jon in the end do they share the same staff training, certification or break room? Same company. (Tries not to go into real open access rant)

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                  @maartje @lewd @hopla SNCF: all the same company when it suits SNCF. Different companies when it suits SNCF.

                  And those cases are often *precisely the opposite* of when it being one company or not would suit the passengers.

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                  • masek@infosec.exchangeM masek@infosec.exchange

                    @jon Auf dem Weg gerade nach Frankreich (heute Abend: Paris, morgen: Nizza)

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                    @masek I'll wave in.. Strasbourg?

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      @hopla Hang on. How is SNCF allowed to pass a locomotive containing asbestos to F-HXF but not to Transdev? 🤔

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                      @jon asbestos? I saw that on a BB75000, that's way too recent to contain any asbestos, and Transdev self doesn't have a cargo subsidiary AFAIK?

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                      • pseyfert@chaos.socialP pseyfert@chaos.social

                        @jon until this post, I thought that's about as bad as renfe in atocha boarding the 5min apart iryo and AVE from the same platform. But you prove me wrong, that's actually worse.

                        (Anecdote: it took me a while to realise that I thought "something with yes" is how sncf calls their TGVs these days, until I noticed that they had two services, both called "something with yes".)

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                        @pseyfert While SNCF actually more often says "non", or "est-ce que vous avez pensez au covoiturage?"

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          @maartje @lewd @hopla SNCF: all the same company when it suits SNCF. Different companies when it suits SNCF.

                          And those cases are often *precisely the opposite* of when it being one company or not would suit the passengers.

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                          @jon @lewd @hopla this

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                          • maartje@blahaj.socialM maartje@blahaj.social

                            @jon @lewd @hopla this

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                            @maartje @jon @lewd *safely avoids going into the intricacies of cross-border TER service Re: involved companies*

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                            • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

                              @jon asbestos? I saw that on a BB75000, that's way too recent to contain any asbestos, and Transdev self doesn't have a cargo subsidiary AFAIK?

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                              @hopla BB 26000 not getting transferred?

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