Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 17 - 11 Apr - Ravières - Paris - Stuttgart - München - Budapest

[webhat@infosec.exchange]

@miniBill @jon I usually have a back up OV in my pocket to get me through the gates and check myself out again after I'm through. One could also theoretically use their bank card

[maartje@blahaj.social]

@jon thats why we can throw people out again

[minibill@mastodon.uno]

@webhat @jon yeah, second time it happened I did that (check in and out). Basically proves how silly the gates are

[hopla@zug.network]

@jon OuiGo is a subsidiary tho, that's not the same company
And I'm fairly sure the ticket gate disaster is a SNCF Gares&Connexions doing (and their own staff), not a SNCF Voyageurs. Someone in a desk high up thought about the "access to platform allowed only with valid ticket" rule too much

[jon@gruene.social]

@hopla Haaa The trains still say F-SNCF on the side. Enough for me!

[maartje@blahaj.social]

@hopla @jon Gares&Connexions is happy to not enforce the ticket gate rules on demand of the operator though…

[hopla@zug.network]

@jon Gradually this will also change as companies get their own security certification ^^ I could already spot Hexafret locos registered as F-HXF

[lewd@zug.network]

@hopla @jon Yeah, I mean for Thalys no one checks at the platform neither.

[lewd@zug.network]

@hopla @jon That's what all French say but it's really splitting hairs. It's a brand, sorry. Yes, they all say "mimimi other company" but at the end it's the same cartel and nothing more than a brand. Other countries reach there too.

[maartje@blahaj.social]

@lewd @hopla @jon in the end do they share the same staff training, certification or break room? Same company. (Tries not to go into real open access rant)

[masek@infosec.exchange]

@jon Auf dem Weg gerade nach Frankreich (heute Abend: Paris, morgen: Nizza)

[masek@infosec.exchange]

@jon P.S. Ich hasse die Gates in Frankreich

[pseyfert@chaos.social]

@jon until this post, I thought that's about as bad as renfe in atocha boarding the 5min apart iryo and AVE from the same platform. But you prove me wrong, that's actually worse.

(Anecdote: it took me a while to realise that I thought "something with yes" is how sncf calls their TGVs these days, until I noticed that they had two services, both called "something with yes".)

[jon@gruene.social]

@hopla Hang on. How is SNCF allowed to pass a locomotive containing asbestos to F-HXF but not to Transdev?

[jon@gruene.social]

@maartje @lewd @hopla SNCF: all the same company when it suits SNCF. Different companies when it suits SNCF.

And those cases are often *precisely the opposite* of when it being one company or not would suit the passengers.

[jon@gruene.social]

@masek I'll wave in.. Strasbourg?

[hopla@zug.network]

@jon asbestos? I saw that on a BB75000, that's way too recent to contain any asbestos, and Transdev self doesn't have a cargo subsidiary AFAIK?

[jon@gruene.social]

@pseyfert While SNCF actually more often says "non", or "est-ce que vous avez pensez au covoiturage?"

[maartje@blahaj.social]

@jon @lewd @hopla this

[hopla@zug.network]

@maartje @jon @lewd *safely avoids going into the intricacies of cross-border TER service Re: involved companies*