Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 17 - 11 Apr - Ravières - Paris - Stuttgart - München - Budapest
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@jon never understood the point of these platform gates for long distance trains. You still have ticket control inside the train, they require 2 or 3 members of staff as they are dysfunctional and confusing and they are wildly inefficient for the onboarding of an 800pax train. In other words, they cost money, they serve no purpose and they are an annoyance.
@tomtom Right, I agree. But they create jobs, so maybe in the SNCF logic it makes sense?
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@jon you should see SNCF staff looking amazed at us boarding in Gare du Nord without platform checks without any issues
@maartje YOU MIGHT HAVE THE WRONG PASSENGER ON BOARD!
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@jon I almost lost my train because the ones in Arnhem failed to scan my ÖBB ticket tho (and it was Stupid AM so no one to open it for me)
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@maartje YOU MIGHT HAVE THE WRONG PASSENGER ON BOARD!
@jon thats why we can throw people out again
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However you’ve got to admire ticket gates that are staff intensive, do not work well for passengers (QR codes often don’t scan half the time) *and* do not prevent you getting on the wrong train. Which is silly anyway when you have two brands of train run by the same company a few minutes apart, but with incompatible ticketing. #SNCFlogic
@jon OuiGo is a subsidiary tho, that's not the same company
And I'm fairly sure the ticket gate disaster is a SNCF Gares&Connexions doing (and their own staff), not a SNCF Voyageurs. Someone in a desk high up thought about the "access to platform allowed only with valid ticket" rule too much -
@jon OuiGo is a subsidiary tho, that's not the same company
And I'm fairly sure the ticket gate disaster is a SNCF Gares&Connexions doing (and their own staff), not a SNCF Voyageurs. Someone in a desk high up thought about the "access to platform allowed only with valid ticket" rule too much@hopla Haaa
The trains still say F-SNCF on the side. Enough for me! -
@jon OuiGo is a subsidiary tho, that's not the same company
And I'm fairly sure the ticket gate disaster is a SNCF Gares&Connexions doing (and their own staff), not a SNCF Voyageurs. Someone in a desk high up thought about the "access to platform allowed only with valid ticket" rule too much -
@hopla Haaa
The trains still say F-SNCF on the side. Enough for me!@jon Gradually this will also change as companies get their own security certification ^^ I could already spot Hexafret locos registered as F-HXF
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@jon OuiGo is a subsidiary tho, that's not the same company
And I'm fairly sure the ticket gate disaster is a SNCF Gares&Connexions doing (and their own staff), not a SNCF Voyageurs. Someone in a desk high up thought about the "access to platform allowed only with valid ticket" rule too much -
@jon OuiGo is a subsidiary tho, that's not the same company
And I'm fairly sure the ticket gate disaster is a SNCF Gares&Connexions doing (and their own staff), not a SNCF Voyageurs. Someone in a desk high up thought about the "access to platform allowed only with valid ticket" rule too much -
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Ah the idiots have announced the platform but not opened the ticket gates. Well done! #SNCFlogic
@jon Auf dem Weg gerade nach Frankreich (heute Abend: Paris, morgen: Nizza)
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@jon Auf dem Weg gerade nach Frankreich (heute Abend: Paris, morgen: Nizza)
@jon P.S. Ich hasse die Gates in Frankreich
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And we’re going to have the really *amazing* crush here. The inOui platform will be announced 2 mins BEFORE the OUIGO leaves (20 mins vs 18 mins). So anyone running for the OUIGO is going to be stuck behind a crush of inOui passengers
#SNCFlogic@jon until this post, I thought that's about as bad as renfe in atocha boarding the 5min apart iryo and AVE from the same platform. But you prove me wrong, that's actually worse.
(Anecdote: it took me a while to realise that I thought "something with yes" is how sncf calls their TGVs these days, until I noticed that they had two services, both called "something with yes".)
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@jon Gradually this will also change as companies get their own security certification ^^ I could already spot Hexafret locos registered as F-HXF
@hopla Hang on. How is SNCF allowed to pass a locomotive containing asbestos to F-HXF but not to Transdev?
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@jon Auf dem Weg gerade nach Frankreich (heute Abend: Paris, morgen: Nizza)
@masek I'll wave in.. Strasbourg?
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@hopla Hang on. How is SNCF allowed to pass a locomotive containing asbestos to F-HXF but not to Transdev?
@jon asbestos? I saw that on a BB75000, that's way too recent to contain any asbestos, and Transdev self doesn't have a cargo subsidiary AFAIK?
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@jon until this post, I thought that's about as bad as renfe in atocha boarding the 5min apart iryo and AVE from the same platform. But you prove me wrong, that's actually worse.
(Anecdote: it took me a while to realise that I thought "something with yes" is how sncf calls their TGVs these days, until I noticed that they had two services, both called "something with yes".)
@pseyfert While SNCF actually more often says "non", or "est-ce que vous avez pensez au covoiturage?"
