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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 17 - 11 Apr - Ravières - Paris - Stuttgart - München - Budapest

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    However my point above was wrong - they did board the OUIGO and inOui from separate platforms 👏 They then just hadn’t opened the gates 🤷‍♂️ #SNCFlogic

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    @jon I really really hate ticket gates. They are a form of distrust that makes no sense to me

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    • minibill@mastodon.unoM minibill@mastodon.uno

      @jon I really really hate ticket gates. They are a form of distrust that makes no sense to me

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      @miniBill Right. Same. Although the Dutch have at least designed some that seem to scan tickets more often than not. Unlike the French ones!

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        @miniBill Right. Same. Although the Dutch have at least designed some that seem to scan tickets more often than not. Unlike the French ones!

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        @jon I almost lost my train because the ones in Arnhem failed to scan my ÖBB ticket tho (and it was Stupid AM so no one to open it for me)

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          However you’ve got to admire ticket gates that are staff intensive, do not work well for passengers (QR codes often don’t scan half the time) *and* do not prevent you getting on the wrong train. Which is silly anyway when you have two brands of train run by the same company a few minutes apart, but with incompatible ticketing. #SNCFlogic

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          @jon you should see SNCF staff looking amazed at us boarding in Gare du Nord without platform checks without any issues 🤣

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            However you’ve got to admire ticket gates that are staff intensive, do not work well for passengers (QR codes often don’t scan half the time) *and* do not prevent you getting on the wrong train. Which is silly anyway when you have two brands of train run by the same company a few minutes apart, but with incompatible ticketing. #SNCFlogic

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            @jon never understood the point of these platform gates for long distance trains. You still have ticket control inside the train, they require 2 or 3 members of staff as they are dysfunctional and confusing and they are wildly inefficient for the onboarding of an 800pax train. In other words, they cost money, they serve no purpose and they are an annoyance.

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            • tomtom@pouet.chapril.orgT tomtom@pouet.chapril.org

              @jon never understood the point of these platform gates for long distance trains. You still have ticket control inside the train, they require 2 or 3 members of staff as they are dysfunctional and confusing and they are wildly inefficient for the onboarding of an 800pax train. In other words, they cost money, they serve no purpose and they are an annoyance.

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              @tomtom Right, I agree. But they create jobs, so maybe in the SNCF logic it makes sense?

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              • maartje@blahaj.socialM maartje@blahaj.social

                @jon you should see SNCF staff looking amazed at us boarding in Gare du Nord without platform checks without any issues 🤣

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                @maartje YOU MIGHT HAVE THE WRONG PASSENGER ON BOARD!

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                • minibill@mastodon.unoM minibill@mastodon.uno

                  @jon I almost lost my train because the ones in Arnhem failed to scan my ÖBB ticket tho (and it was Stupid AM so no one to open it for me)

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                  @miniBill @jon I usually have a back up OV in my pocket to get me through the gates and check myself out again after I'm through. One could also theoretically use their bank card

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    @maartje YOU MIGHT HAVE THE WRONG PASSENGER ON BOARD!

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                    @jon thats why we can throw people out again 🤣

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                    • webhat@infosec.exchangeW webhat@infosec.exchange

                      @miniBill @jon I usually have a back up OV in my pocket to get me through the gates and check myself out again after I'm through. One could also theoretically use their bank card

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                      @webhat @jon yeah, second time it happened I did that (check in and out). Basically proves how silly the gates are

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        However you’ve got to admire ticket gates that are staff intensive, do not work well for passengers (QR codes often don’t scan half the time) *and* do not prevent you getting on the wrong train. Which is silly anyway when you have two brands of train run by the same company a few minutes apart, but with incompatible ticketing. #SNCFlogic

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                        @jon OuiGo is a subsidiary tho, that's not the same company 👀
                        And I'm fairly sure the ticket gate disaster is a SNCF Gares&Connexions doing (and their own staff), not a SNCF Voyageurs. Someone in a desk high up thought about the "access to platform allowed only with valid ticket" rule too much

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                        • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

                          @jon OuiGo is a subsidiary tho, that's not the same company 👀
                          And I'm fairly sure the ticket gate disaster is a SNCF Gares&Connexions doing (and their own staff), not a SNCF Voyageurs. Someone in a desk high up thought about the "access to platform allowed only with valid ticket" rule too much

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                          @hopla Haaa 😂 The trains still say F-SNCF on the side. Enough for me!

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                          • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

                            @jon OuiGo is a subsidiary tho, that's not the same company 👀
                            And I'm fairly sure the ticket gate disaster is a SNCF Gares&Connexions doing (and their own staff), not a SNCF Voyageurs. Someone in a desk high up thought about the "access to platform allowed only with valid ticket" rule too much

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                            @hopla @jon Gares&Connexions is happy to not enforce the ticket gate rules on demand of the operator though…

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              @hopla Haaa 😂 The trains still say F-SNCF on the side. Enough for me!

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                              @jon Gradually this will also change as companies get their own security certification ^^ I could already spot Hexafret locos registered as F-HXF

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                              • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

                                @jon OuiGo is a subsidiary tho, that's not the same company 👀
                                And I'm fairly sure the ticket gate disaster is a SNCF Gares&Connexions doing (and their own staff), not a SNCF Voyageurs. Someone in a desk high up thought about the "access to platform allowed only with valid ticket" rule too much

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                                @hopla @jon Yeah, I mean for Thalys no one checks at the platform neither.

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                                • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

                                  @jon OuiGo is a subsidiary tho, that's not the same company 👀
                                  And I'm fairly sure the ticket gate disaster is a SNCF Gares&Connexions doing (and their own staff), not a SNCF Voyageurs. Someone in a desk high up thought about the "access to platform allowed only with valid ticket" rule too much

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                                  @hopla @jon That's what all French say but it's really splitting hairs. It's a brand, sorry. Yes, they all say "mimimi other company" but at the end it's the same cartel and nothing more than a brand. Other countries reach there too.

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                                  • lewd@zug.networkL lewd@zug.network

                                    @hopla @jon That's what all French say but it's really splitting hairs. It's a brand, sorry. Yes, they all say "mimimi other company" but at the end it's the same cartel and nothing more than a brand. Other countries reach there too.

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                                    @lewd @hopla @jon in the end do they share the same staff training, certification or break room? Same company. (Tries not to go into real open access rant)

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      Ah the idiots have announced the platform but not opened the ticket gates. Well done! #SNCFlogic

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                                      @jon Auf dem Weg gerade nach Frankreich (heute Abend: Paris, morgen: Nizza)

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                                      • masek@infosec.exchangeM masek@infosec.exchange

                                        @jon Auf dem Weg gerade nach Frankreich (heute Abend: Paris, morgen: Nizza)

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                                        @jon P.S. Ich hasse die Gates in Frankreich 😏

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          And we’re going to have the really *amazing* crush here. The inOui platform will be announced 2 mins BEFORE the OUIGO leaves (20 mins vs 18 mins). So anyone running for the OUIGO is going to be stuck behind a crush of inOui passengers 😆 #SNCFlogic

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                                          @jon until this post, I thought that's about as bad as renfe in atocha boarding the 5min apart iryo and AVE from the same platform. But you prove me wrong, that's actually worse.

                                          (Anecdote: it took me a while to realise that I thought "something with yes" is how sncf calls their TGVs these days, until I noticed that they had two services, both called "something with yes".)

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