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  3. first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

    after reading the datasheet a bit more carefully, i know why i couldn't: the JTAG port is simply not exposed unless the firmware configures the pin mux that way. i'd have to dump the firmware in some other way

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    @whitequark Just in case this were really the end... would you give away your PCB in the state it is right now? And maybe some advice how to dump it? I guess you mean the configuration mode thingie?

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    • maehw@chaos.socialM maehw@chaos.social

      @whitequark Just in case this were really the end... would you give away your PCB in the state it is right now? And maybe some advice how to dump it? I guess you mean the configuration mode thingie?

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      @maehw I am open to giving it away; I might consider doing a little bit more of RE work e.g. to probe if maybe the LEGO ASIC has a JTAG port available

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      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

        @maehw I am open to giving it away; I might consider doing a little bit more of RE work e.g. to probe if maybe the LEGO ASIC has a JTAG port available

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        @whitequark I won't stop you doing more RE'ing! Just curious if the internal flash could still be dumped and before it goes to the trash. Even though I may be lacking the skills to do so.

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        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

          not my best work but it should do the trick

          feat. comically big q-tip

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          @whitequark Monkey Island Q-tip comes to mind

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          • maehw@chaos.socialM maehw@chaos.social

            @whitequark I won't stop you doing more RE'ing! Just curious if the internal flash could still be dumped and before it goes to the trash. Even though I may be lacking the skills to do so.

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            @maehw ah I don't trash boards like that unless I 100% know there's nothing more to be gained from them

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            • sounddrill@infosec.exchangeS sounddrill@infosec.exchange

              @whitequark I know this seems like an ordinary jump to you but if I managed to get one as clean as this, I'd feel like a goddamn hero 😭

              I ruined a beautiful rf01(one of those xbox 360 donor rf recievers wired through usb) with my soldering

              Then it died but I think that was because I wasn't supplying the right power the right way(iirc it wanted a stable 3.3v and I just gave it a nodemcu 3v3) which was a common problem on these boards

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              @sounddrill @whitequark you need MacGyver, a paperclip and two elastic bands, clearly… This is the closest I could find to an appropriate MacGyver picture…

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              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                ok so this would be the JTAG pins

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                @whitequark
                How did you guess these GPIO would be JTAG?

                EDIT: explained further down the thread --> https://social.treehouse.systems/@whitequark/116389802932543329

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                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                  @pdo have you ever heard the life story of the Saint Equal-to-the-Apostles Princess Olga of Kyiv? I'm similar.

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                  @whitequark @pdo

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                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                    @drwho https://glasgow-embedded.org/

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                    @whitequark @drwho oh boy i want one so bad, shame i don't have the time of day to use it though

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                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                      here's the flash contents https://upload.whitequark.org/1775953651-lego_brick_00F2MZ_749DF5_W25Q16JWBY.bin

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                      @whitequark Just in case, others want to dig deeper: I cut out the binary starting from offset 0x105000 and can confirm, that I can parse the unencrypted, uncompressed read-only file system (ROFS) there:

                      https://codeberg.org/maehw/SmartBrickToolkit/src/branch/main/kaitai/smart_brick_decompressed_rofs_segment.ksy + other parts in the repo

                      I guess that the remaining parts are meta data... and probably also diagnostic data which are collected by the brick and may be transmitted to TLG via their companion app.

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                      • maehw@chaos.socialM maehw@chaos.social

                        @whitequark Just in case, others want to dig deeper: I cut out the binary starting from offset 0x105000 and can confirm, that I can parse the unencrypted, uncompressed read-only file system (ROFS) there:

                        https://codeberg.org/maehw/SmartBrickToolkit/src/branch/main/kaitai/smart_brick_decompressed_rofs_segment.ksy + other parts in the repo

                        I guess that the remaining parts are meta data... and probably also diagnostic data which are collected by the brick and may be transmitted to TLG via their companion app.

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                        @whitequark Help in finding checksum or hash algorithms... timestamps or whatsoever in the data structure is more then welcome. Happy to get pull aka merge requests on Codeberg.

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