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  3. Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

    Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

    Think about it

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    @eniko @EUCommission the name EuroFox is right there

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    • flyingpenguin@infosec.exchangeF flyingpenguin@infosec.exchange

      @eniko @anthrazit you should maybe check on that https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-vs-google-chrome/

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      @flyingpenguin @eniko

      Great link, thanks a lot.

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      • connynasch@mastodon.socialC connynasch@mastodon.social

        @Brokar @eniko @EUCommission How do you feel about DuckDuckGo, which is the browser I use?

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        @connynasch @Brokar @eniko @EUCommission Nutz lieber Firefox Klar. Firefox Focus!

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        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

          Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

          Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

          Think about it

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          @eniko @EUCommission Mullvad Browser ( and VPN )

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          • flyingpenguin@infosec.exchangeF flyingpenguin@infosec.exchange

            @eniko @anthrazit you should maybe check on that https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-vs-google-chrome/

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            @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit

            1. so again, closed source except the google controlled part.

            2. these three parts are not equal. google controlling the engine gives them a lot of control over the implementation of web standards -- and not least, as we've seen with the manifest v2 deprecation, over what kind of browser extensions are viable.

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            • einsiedlerspiel@todon.nlE einsiedlerspiel@todon.nl

              @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit

              1. so again, closed source except the google controlled part.

              2. these three parts are not equal. google controlling the engine gives them a lot of control over the implementation of web standards -- and not least, as we've seen with the manifest v2 deprecation, over what kind of browser extensions are viable.

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              @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit

              ad blocking and browser coming from different vendors is a _feature_, not something to be fixed in my book.

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

                Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

                Think about it

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                @eniko @EUCommission

                Link Preview Image
                Befreiung des Internets mit dem Mullvad Browser

                Der Mullvad Browser ist ein auf Datenschutz ausgerichteter Webbrowser, entwickelt in Zusammenarbeit zwischen Mullvad VPN und dem Tor Project. Er wurde entworfen, um Tracking und digitale Fingerabdrücke zu minimieren.

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                Mullvad VPN (mullvad.net)

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                • turre@mementomori.socialT turre@mementomori.social

                  @hiphopheaven @luc0x61 @booboo @eniko @EUCommission
                  Vivaldi is not open-source. No matter how good the intentions of current Vivaldi leadership, without the source you're forever the hostage.

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                  @Turre @luc0x61 @booboo @eniko @EUCommission i don't care. Ipensourceness is just a bonus for me, features over opensourceness. Most projects end up with no relevant fork and an owner that decide to reject features they don't see fit

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                  • einsiedlerspiel@todon.nlE einsiedlerspiel@todon.nl

                    @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit

                    1. so again, closed source except the google controlled part.

                    2. these three parts are not equal. google controlling the engine gives them a lot of control over the implementation of web standards -- and not least, as we've seen with the manifest v2 deprecation, over what kind of browser extensions are viable.

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                    @einsiedlerspiel @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit

                    From Microsoft (HTML Standard ) to Google ( Manifest )

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                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

                      Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

                      Think about it

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                      @eniko @EUCommission you may want to address @EC_OSPO

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                      • allende1973@todon.nlA allende1973@todon.nl

                        @eniko @EUCommission

                        Bad idea.

                        The EU commission woul build spyware into it to supply intelligence to Israel.

                        And it would ban Palestinians and Iranians from using it, because of zionist sanctions.

                        Why?

                        Because the EU is a zionist tool.

                        The answer is to free Firefox, not to swap abusive owner.

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                        @allende1973 @eniko @EUCommission Hab den Beitrag Mastodon gemeldet.

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                        • webbop@tech.lgbtW webbop@tech.lgbt

                          @eniko @EUCommission Oh btw @servo is kind of that, it's based entirely in the EU and is supported by the Linux Foundation, it's made from the ground-up in Rust, no other browser engine!

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                          @webbop @eniko @EUCommission @servo but rust is AI these days

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                          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

                            Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

                            Think about it

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                            @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                            1 EU would not be more privacy friendly than mozilla
                            2 EU is in the pocket of giant corps, google for one

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                            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

                              Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

                              Think about it

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                              @eniko @EUCommission european nationalism my beloathed. eu this eu that how about just. non-american. and decentralized

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                              • gabeweb@mastodon.socialG gabeweb@mastodon.social

                                @eniko @EUCommission No, thanks. Firefox should be an Asian or African browser, since most iconic European companies were killed by European '"protectionism".

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                                @gabeweb
                                [citation needed]

                                @eniko @EUCommission

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                                • bartv@mastodon.socialB bartv@mastodon.social

                                  @eniko @EUCommission oh! And we could call it Firefeux (“feux” meaning fires in French)

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                                  @BartV @eniko @EUCommission shouldn't it be feuxfox then?

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                                  • viq@social.hackerspace.plV viq@social.hackerspace.pl

                                    @BartV @eniko @EUCommission shouldn't it be feuxfox then?

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                                    @viq @BartV @eniko @EUCommission der Feuerfuchs

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                                    • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

                                      @gabeweb
                                      [citation needed]

                                      @eniko @EUCommission

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                                      @dzwiedziu @eniko @EUCommission the EU over-regulates its own industry to death, making it impossible to compete. That's why traditional European brands either moved to B2B or went extinct, leaving the consumer market wide open for Chinese companies.

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                                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

                                        Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

                                        Think about it

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                                        @eniko @EUCommission I've repeatedly (alas not with much reach) advocated for this.

                                        The open Internet of today needs would need a free browser - and a free mobile OS.

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                                        • gabeweb@mastodon.socialG gabeweb@mastodon.social

                                          @dzwiedziu @eniko @EUCommission the EU over-regulates its own industry to death, making it impossible to compete. That's why traditional European brands either moved to B2B or went extinct, leaving the consumer market wide open for Chinese companies.

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                                          @gabeweb
                                          I've asked for citations, as in concrete examples.

                                          If you're only into scaremongering with “regulations” then I'm done here and temp-muting you.

                                          P.S. Check why Germany has a TÜV in China, or why France bans many Chinese products, or why we don't import food from the USA, then you'll know what regulations are for.

                                          @eniko @EUCommission

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