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Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

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  • L luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place

    @booboo @eniko @EUCommission And this would be a better idea than buying an US based company to develop EU software.

    Oh well, then why not simply fund and support #LibreWolf which is already hosted on #Codeberg and developed in Europe?

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    @luc0x61 @booboo @eniko @EUCommission I would be down with Eurofox, except official initiatives from the EU suggest they seem to think AI is part of the solution, not the problem - so I think it would be Mistralfox or something within a year

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    • trinsec@trinsec.orgT trinsec@trinsec.org

      @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu Don't we have Vivaldi?

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      @trinsec @EUCommission @eniko which is based on chromium. Hardly a sovereign browser.

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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

        Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

        Think about it

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        @eniko @EUCommission honestly that would be pretty cool

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        • wyatt_h_knott@mstdn.socialW wyatt_h_knott@mstdn.social

          @eniko @EUCommission (coughs politely) LibreWolf (cough)

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          @wyatt_h_knott @EUCommission @eniko LibreWolf doesn't actually accept any funding tho 😔
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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            @anthrazit don't think chrome in a different jacket buys a lot of sovereignty

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            #47

            @eniko @anthrazit you should maybe check on that https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-vs-google-chrome/

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            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

              Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

              Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

              Think about it

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              @eniko @EUCommission the name EuroFox is right there

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              • flyingpenguin@infosec.exchangeF flyingpenguin@infosec.exchange

                @eniko @anthrazit you should maybe check on that https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-vs-google-chrome/

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                @flyingpenguin @eniko

                Great link, thanks a lot.

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                • connynasch@mastodon.socialC connynasch@mastodon.social

                  @Brokar @eniko @EUCommission How do you feel about DuckDuckGo, which is the browser I use?

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                  @connynasch @Brokar @eniko @EUCommission Nutz lieber Firefox Klar. Firefox Focus!

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

                    Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

                    Think about it

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                    @eniko @EUCommission Mullvad Browser ( and VPN )

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                    • flyingpenguin@infosec.exchangeF flyingpenguin@infosec.exchange

                      @eniko @anthrazit you should maybe check on that https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-vs-google-chrome/

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                      @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit

                      1. so again, closed source except the google controlled part.

                      2. these three parts are not equal. google controlling the engine gives them a lot of control over the implementation of web standards -- and not least, as we've seen with the manifest v2 deprecation, over what kind of browser extensions are viable.

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                      • einsiedlerspiel@todon.nlE einsiedlerspiel@todon.nl

                        @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit

                        1. so again, closed source except the google controlled part.

                        2. these three parts are not equal. google controlling the engine gives them a lot of control over the implementation of web standards -- and not least, as we've seen with the manifest v2 deprecation, over what kind of browser extensions are viable.

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                        @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit

                        ad blocking and browser coming from different vendors is a _feature_, not something to be fixed in my book.

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                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

                          Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

                          Think about it

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                          @eniko @EUCommission

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                          Befreiung des Internets mit dem Mullvad Browser

                          Der Mullvad Browser ist ein auf Datenschutz ausgerichteter Webbrowser, entwickelt in Zusammenarbeit zwischen Mullvad VPN und dem Tor Project. Er wurde entworfen, um Tracking und digitale Fingerabdrücke zu minimieren.

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                          Mullvad VPN (mullvad.net)

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                          • turre@mementomori.socialT turre@mementomori.social

                            @hiphopheaven @luc0x61 @booboo @eniko @EUCommission
                            Vivaldi is not open-source. No matter how good the intentions of current Vivaldi leadership, without the source you're forever the hostage.

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                            @Turre @luc0x61 @booboo @eniko @EUCommission i don't care. Ipensourceness is just a bonus for me, features over opensourceness. Most projects end up with no relevant fork and an owner that decide to reject features they don't see fit

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                            • einsiedlerspiel@todon.nlE einsiedlerspiel@todon.nl

                              @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit

                              1. so again, closed source except the google controlled part.

                              2. these three parts are not equal. google controlling the engine gives them a lot of control over the implementation of web standards -- and not least, as we've seen with the manifest v2 deprecation, over what kind of browser extensions are viable.

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                              @einsiedlerspiel @flyingpenguin @eniko @anthrazit

                              From Microsoft (HTML Standard ) to Google ( Manifest )

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                              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

                                Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

                                Think about it

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                                #57

                                @eniko @EUCommission you may want to address @EC_OSPO

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                                • allende1973@todon.nlA allende1973@todon.nl

                                  @eniko @EUCommission

                                  Bad idea.

                                  The EU commission woul build spyware into it to supply intelligence to Israel.

                                  And it would ban Palestinians and Iranians from using it, because of zionist sanctions.

                                  Why?

                                  Because the EU is a zionist tool.

                                  The answer is to free Firefox, not to swap abusive owner.

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                                  @allende1973 @eniko @EUCommission Hab den Beitrag Mastodon gemeldet.

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                                  • webbop@tech.lgbtW webbop@tech.lgbt

                                    @eniko @EUCommission Oh btw @servo is kind of that, it's based entirely in the EU and is supported by the Linux Foundation, it's made from the ground-up in Rust, no other browser engine!

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                                    @webbop @eniko @EUCommission @servo but rust is AI these days

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                                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

                                      Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

                                      Think about it

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                                      @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                      1 EU would not be more privacy friendly than mozilla
                                      2 EU is in the pocket of giant corps, google for one

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                                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

                                        Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

                                        Think about it

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                                        @eniko @EUCommission european nationalism my beloathed. eu this eu that how about just. non-american. and decentralized

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                                        • gabeweb@mastodon.socialG gabeweb@mastodon.social

                                          @eniko @EUCommission No, thanks. Firefox should be an Asian or African browser, since most iconic European companies were killed by European '"protectionism".

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                                          @gabeweb
                                          [citation needed]

                                          @eniko @EUCommission

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