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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @martinvermeer @rozeboosje

    so like the pleiades!

    also seven sisters

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    @benroyce @martinvermeer At least one of them is a blue giant so yeah, it's young and it won't be long lived ...

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    • nomenloony@nomenloony.comN nomenloony@nomenloony.com

      @benroyce I always remember reading "our sun is a very average yellow star" and now we say "our sun is an uncommon lone star, unlike most stars which exist in multiple systems"

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      @nomenloony @benroyce Telescopes got muuuch better.

      And we collectivly took a step into a larger world.

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @martinvermeer @rozeboosje

        so like the pleiades!

        also seven sisters

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        @benroyce @rozeboosje Yep. On long-exposure photographs, also the Pleiades show a dust nebula containing the cluster, and illuminated by it in reflected light.

        The Pleiades are a bit older but not very old, some 100 million years. How do we know? From its colour-magnitude diagram. The cluster contains hot, bright blue stars that are still burning hydrogen, which would have branched off and turned into red giants burning helium, if the cluster were older.

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        • rozeboosje@masto.aiR rozeboosje@masto.ai

          @benroyce @martinvermeer At least one of them is a blue giant so yeah, it's young and it won't be long lived ...

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          @rozeboosje @benroyce They are all B type, but you mean component A which is B3V?

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            #ScienceFiction is informed by #Science

            And Science in turn stares at Science Fiction, nods, and smiles broadly

            "On ‘ #StarWarsDay’, researchers more than double the number of potential known ‘circumbinary’ planets like the fictional Tatooine, home to Luke Skywalker"

            A circumbinary planet is a planet that orbits two suns

            More than half of all stars exist in binary star systems or star systems with even more than two stars

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            Scientists discover 27 potential new planets that orbit two stars in solar systems far, far away

            On ‘Star Wars day’, researchers more than double the number of potential known ‘circumbinary’ planets like the fictional Tatooine, home to Luke Skywalker

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            the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

            #MayThe4th #MayThe4thBeWithYou

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            @benroyce Star Wars is science fiction? I always thought it was consumerism and merchandising based on awful fantasy movies with a weak allegory of the Vietnam conflict and ripped off Authurian legend, annoying characters and bad romance writing.

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            • scrimshaw9@mastodon.socialS scrimshaw9@mastodon.social

              @benroyce Star Wars is science fiction? I always thought it was consumerism and merchandising based on awful fantasy movies with a weak allegory of the Vietnam conflict and ripped off Authurian legend, annoying characters and bad romance writing.

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              @Scrimshaw9

              well, truthfully, it's more space opera than science fiction

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              • rozeboosje@masto.aiR rozeboosje@masto.ai

                @benroyce I read an article recently that explained that such systems are inherently unstable and such planets are bound to either end up being swallowed by one of the stars or yeeted out of the system. But do you think I can find it now? Can I 'eck.... sorry

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                @rozeboosje @benroyce Technically our solar system is unstable, too.

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @ChuckMcManis @johnlogic

                  it's probably the difference between

                  "there's one... and there's one"

                  and

                  "holy shit, in this field of view... that's a lot"

                  😅

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                  @benroyce
                  Well if there are a lot of planets it's gonna put a big crimp in interstellar travel. 😉
                  @johnlogic

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                  • martinvermeer@fediscience.orgM martinvermeer@fediscience.org

                    @rozeboosje @benroyce They are all B type, but you mean component A which is B3V?

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                    @martinvermeer @benroyce possibly.... I lost the link where I read that 😬

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                    • chuckmcmanis@chaos.socialC chuckmcmanis@chaos.social

                      @benroyce
                      Well if there are a lot of planets it's gonna put a big crimp in interstellar travel. 😉
                      @johnlogic

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                      @ChuckMcManis @johnlogic

                      on the contrary:

                      if we map it well enough, think of the gravitational slingshots

                      we always talk about the need to go straight line and have constant thrust over huge distances (and then braking)

                      but what if we had amazing maps, and were able to plot courses on gravitational slingshots one after the other over huge distances?

                      it would require exquisite mapping, even little objects would kill

                      and it would require extreme computation, as all these things are moving

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @ChuckMcManis @johnlogic

                        on the contrary:

                        if we map it well enough, think of the gravitational slingshots

                        we always talk about the need to go straight line and have constant thrust over huge distances (and then braking)

                        but what if we had amazing maps, and were able to plot courses on gravitational slingshots one after the other over huge distances?

                        it would require exquisite mapping, even little objects would kill

                        and it would require extreme computation, as all these things are moving

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                        @benroyce @ChuckMcManis

                        The computation for gravitational slingshots shouldn't be very extreme. It's straightforward, but would require a fair amount of data. Once out of a star's system, it should be easier to slingshot around stars than planets.

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                        • johnlogic@sfba.socialJ johnlogic@sfba.social

                          @benroyce @ChuckMcManis

                          The computation for gravitational slingshots shouldn't be very extreme. It's straightforward, but would require a fair amount of data. Once out of a star's system, it should be easier to slingshot around stars than planets.

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                          @johnlogic @ChuckMcManis

                          That would be pretty neat if we could ping pong our way somewhere else doing that. Assuming there were enough rogue planets sitting there in the dark. Below a certain density it doesn't offer much but above a certain density it would be a goldmine. I would assume we could gain speed with each slingshot

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