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  • chuckmcmanis@chaos.socialC chuckmcmanis@chaos.social

    @benroyce
    ooh, neat. Yeah if you could see the lensing you'd be MUCH more likely to see one as that would eliminate the need for a conjunction. Still I'm wondering if we could sift through snaps from Kepler and get lucky.

    @johnlogic

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    @ChuckMcManis @johnlogic

    it's probably the difference between

    "there's one... and there's one"

    and

    "holy shit, in this field of view... that's a lot"

    😅

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @martinvermeer @rozeboosje

      so like the pleiades!

      also seven sisters

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      @benroyce @martinvermeer At least one of them is a blue giant so yeah, it's young and it won't be long lived ...

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      • nomenloony@nomenloony.comN nomenloony@nomenloony.com

        @benroyce I always remember reading "our sun is a very average yellow star" and now we say "our sun is an uncommon lone star, unlike most stars which exist in multiple systems"

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        @nomenloony @benroyce Telescopes got muuuch better.

        And we collectivly took a step into a larger world.

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @martinvermeer @rozeboosje

          so like the pleiades!

          also seven sisters

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          @benroyce @rozeboosje Yep. On long-exposure photographs, also the Pleiades show a dust nebula containing the cluster, and illuminated by it in reflected light.

          The Pleiades are a bit older but not very old, some 100 million years. How do we know? From its colour-magnitude diagram. The cluster contains hot, bright blue stars that are still burning hydrogen, which would have branched off and turned into red giants burning helium, if the cluster were older.

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          • rozeboosje@masto.aiR rozeboosje@masto.ai

            @benroyce @martinvermeer At least one of them is a blue giant so yeah, it's young and it won't be long lived ...

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            @rozeboosje @benroyce They are all B type, but you mean component A which is B3V?

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              #ScienceFiction is informed by #Science

              And Science in turn stares at Science Fiction, nods, and smiles broadly

              "On ‘ #StarWarsDay’, researchers more than double the number of potential known ‘circumbinary’ planets like the fictional Tatooine, home to Luke Skywalker"

              A circumbinary planet is a planet that orbits two suns

              More than half of all stars exist in binary star systems or star systems with even more than two stars

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              Scientists discover 27 potential new planets that orbit two stars in solar systems far, far away

              On ‘Star Wars day’, researchers more than double the number of potential known ‘circumbinary’ planets like the fictional Tatooine, home to Luke Skywalker

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              the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

              #MayThe4th #MayThe4thBeWithYou

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              @benroyce Star Wars is science fiction? I always thought it was consumerism and merchandising based on awful fantasy movies with a weak allegory of the Vietnam conflict and ripped off Authurian legend, annoying characters and bad romance writing.

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              • scrimshaw9@mastodon.socialS scrimshaw9@mastodon.social

                @benroyce Star Wars is science fiction? I always thought it was consumerism and merchandising based on awful fantasy movies with a weak allegory of the Vietnam conflict and ripped off Authurian legend, annoying characters and bad romance writing.

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                @Scrimshaw9

                well, truthfully, it's more space opera than science fiction

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                • rozeboosje@masto.aiR rozeboosje@masto.ai

                  @benroyce I read an article recently that explained that such systems are inherently unstable and such planets are bound to either end up being swallowed by one of the stars or yeeted out of the system. But do you think I can find it now? Can I 'eck.... sorry

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                  @rozeboosje @benroyce Technically our solar system is unstable, too.

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @ChuckMcManis @johnlogic

                    it's probably the difference between

                    "there's one... and there's one"

                    and

                    "holy shit, in this field of view... that's a lot"

                    😅

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                    @benroyce
                    Well if there are a lot of planets it's gonna put a big crimp in interstellar travel. 😉
                    @johnlogic

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                    • martinvermeer@fediscience.orgM martinvermeer@fediscience.org

                      @rozeboosje @benroyce They are all B type, but you mean component A which is B3V?

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                      @martinvermeer @benroyce possibly.... I lost the link where I read that 😬

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                      • chuckmcmanis@chaos.socialC chuckmcmanis@chaos.social

                        @benroyce
                        Well if there are a lot of planets it's gonna put a big crimp in interstellar travel. 😉
                        @johnlogic

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                        @ChuckMcManis @johnlogic

                        on the contrary:

                        if we map it well enough, think of the gravitational slingshots

                        we always talk about the need to go straight line and have constant thrust over huge distances (and then braking)

                        but what if we had amazing maps, and were able to plot courses on gravitational slingshots one after the other over huge distances?

                        it would require exquisite mapping, even little objects would kill

                        and it would require extreme computation, as all these things are moving

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @ChuckMcManis @johnlogic

                          on the contrary:

                          if we map it well enough, think of the gravitational slingshots

                          we always talk about the need to go straight line and have constant thrust over huge distances (and then braking)

                          but what if we had amazing maps, and were able to plot courses on gravitational slingshots one after the other over huge distances?

                          it would require exquisite mapping, even little objects would kill

                          and it would require extreme computation, as all these things are moving

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                          @benroyce @ChuckMcManis

                          The computation for gravitational slingshots shouldn't be very extreme. It's straightforward, but would require a fair amount of data. Once out of a star's system, it should be easier to slingshot around stars than planets.

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                            @benroyce @ChuckMcManis

                            The computation for gravitational slingshots shouldn't be very extreme. It's straightforward, but would require a fair amount of data. Once out of a star's system, it should be easier to slingshot around stars than planets.

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                            @johnlogic @ChuckMcManis

                            That would be pretty neat if we could ping pong our way somewhere else doing that. Assuming there were enough rogue planets sitting there in the dark. Below a certain density it doesn't offer much but above a certain density it would be a goldmine. I would assume we could gain speed with each slingshot

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