Nothing gives Israel a special right to invade neighbors, bulldoze their homes, and create a DMZ.
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Yup there is none.
Just like there is no "cast them all into a volcano" optionWould that there was, but there isn't
What you get is the optician's exam - Is 1 better, or 2. 1 or 2. If you stand away and don't choose, you get shitty spectacles, not the magical ones you imagine, not do your eyes suddenly improve on their own.
@Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity
@screwturn if only there were, actually, a "cast them all into a volcano" option
then only the most confident and thoughtful persons would run.
however, I know Nevada has a NOTA option on their ballots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_of_These_Candidates
@A_Minion @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity
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@Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado oh no! The Hill!?! Well if a tabloid said it, that certainly gives you an excuse to stay home and not do anything!
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@Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado oh no! The Hill!?! Well if a tabloid said it, that certainly gives you an excuse to stay home and not do anything!
@Amoshias @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado
"i stand against the corrupt status quo
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i accept the lies of the corrupt mouthpieces of the status quo to justify my indolence and cynical acceptance via inaction of the corrupt status quo"
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@Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado "why would I vote"
You wouldn't. It would interfere with your carefully cultivated worthlessness.
@TagYourToe @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven
my partner will not donate to DSCC, which is mailing us in the postal mail all the time for contributions, until he is gone. all money begs are returned in the envelope with no money, but sharpie art and words explaining that constraint very explicitly.
...going back to the original post by @mcnado , perhaps a thing to test in primaries is whether the candidates support properly requiring AIPAC to register as a foreign agent. they are lobbying on behalf of Israel ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act#Allegations_of_selective_enforcement
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@screwturn if only there were, actually, a "cast them all into a volcano" option
then only the most confident and thoughtful persons would run.
however, I know Nevada has a NOTA option on their ballots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_of_These_Candidates
@A_Minion @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity
@draNgNon @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity
Thanks, It never occurred to me to look it up. I guess it's just too obvious and thought folks would have said something if it existed, well, either that or boy am I dense. I'll go the the former to salve my wounded ego. . . 8*) The Volcano option is sure enticing tho as a permanent solution.
Peace
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@TagYourToe @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven
my partner will not donate to DSCC, which is mailing us in the postal mail all the time for contributions, until he is gone. all money begs are returned in the envelope with no money, but sharpie art and words explaining that constraint very explicitly.
...going back to the original post by @mcnado , perhaps a thing to test in primaries is whether the candidates support properly requiring AIPAC to register as a foreign agent. they are lobbying on behalf of Israel ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act#Allegations_of_selective_enforcement
@draNgNon @TagYourToe @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado
more usefully, show up in the primaries and vote for the candidate who does not accept dark money
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@draNgNon @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity
Thanks, It never occurred to me to look it up. I guess it's just too obvious and thought folks would have said something if it existed, well, either that or boy am I dense. I'll go the the former to salve my wounded ego. . . 8*) The Volcano option is sure enticing tho as a permanent solution.
Peace
@A_Minion lol I only looked it up becuase I remember them doing it and hoping it would catch on. nearness matters, I'm in Cali and have friends living in Nevada
imagine how different things would be if NOTA + Ranked Choice was the law of the land
@screwturn @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity
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@A_Minion lol I only looked it up becuase I remember them doing it and hoping it would catch on. nearness matters, I'm in Cali and have friends living in Nevada
imagine how different things would be if NOTA + Ranked Choice was the law of the land
@screwturn @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity
@draNgNon @A_Minion @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity
which we get by supporting dem candidates who say so
not because dems are perfect, but because you have dems against RCV and dems for it, and we have to make that choice
meawhile the GOP in 2024 took a blanket stand against RCV
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Was Biden better than the Orange guy?
Was Kamal better than the Orange guy?We got the worst option because people who should have voted for her, just never showed up
I agree with you that there is a qualitative difference between them and that not voting at all or even voting for trump is beyond stupid.
Still, blaming the current situation solely on them is ignoring reality. Every US president has killed many thousands of people, many of them noncombatants.
The USA is an imperialist state which is controlled by capitalists. They are the driving force behind this.
It is like pumping the brakes one meter before the cliff. People need to organize
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@thepoliticalcat @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado
"because the Raptor is happening tomorrow"
you mean rapture but PLEASE do not correct your typo, it is exquisite
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@Amoshias @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado
"i stand against the corrupt status quo
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i accept the lies of the corrupt mouthpieces of the status quo to justify my indolence and cynical acceptance via inaction of the corrupt status quo"
@benroyce @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado "I stand against the corrupt status quo SO FIRMLY that if I cannot take an action which immediately and irrevocably smashes that status quo, I am going to do nothing at all!"
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@draNgNon @A_Minion @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity
which we get by supporting dem candidates who say so
not because dems are perfect, but because you have dems against RCV and dems for it, and we have to make that choice
meawhile the GOP in 2024 took a blanket stand against RCV
@benroyce @draNgNon @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity
Even tho we don't have much choice in a presidential election we have massive choice in House & Senate. If we pick those candidates there it will put pressure on the President . . . But that requires fore thought Maybe even 5 thought. But only 6 years tho 2 would be enough.
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@JakeKb @benroyce @roger @Netraven @mcnado But people prefer to sit on their arse for 1460 days and then go "Oh LoOk BoTh SiDeS BaD So i WoN't VoTe" and then post cynical dreck on Social Media about how "rotten" "the system" is, and repeat that self defeating shit every 4 years. What is rotten is your self indulgent self pitying apathetic mush for brains.
I share your frustration. It is pretty much the same everywhere.
But it is also not completely true. People are organizing. Historically, this has always happened. Capitalist systems always decay into fascism at some point and the people take time to organize and grasp the issue.
There are also proven methods to work against this. Voting is provides the needed slowdown and organizing is sewing the parachutes while approaching the inevitable cliff.
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@draNgNon @A_Minion @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity
which we get by supporting dem candidates who say so
not because dems are perfect, but because you have dems against RCV and dems for it, and we have to make that choice
meawhile the GOP in 2024 took a blanket stand against RCV
@benroyce @draNgNon @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity
Remember that Alaska passed RCV inspite of massive complaint and protest from the GOP, Hell they even brought Sarah back into the deal. Sadly the GOP did get our single House member. So if it can be done here . . . .
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Was Biden better than the Orange guy?
Was Kamal better than the Orange guy?We got the worst option because people who should have voted for her, just never showed up
@screwturn @Pine_Affinity @JakeKb @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado
Thus following the great American low-voter-turnout tradition, which hasn’t seen voter participation great than 63% in over 100 years; midterms average around 40%.
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I share your frustration. It is pretty much the same everywhere.
But it is also not completely true. People are organizing. Historically, this has always happened. Capitalist systems always decay into fascism at some point and the people take time to organize and grasp the issue.
There are also proven methods to work against this. Voting is provides the needed slowdown and organizing is sewing the parachutes while approaching the inevitable cliff.
@haui Absolutely, and of course my rant was directed at those who do actually sing that siren song of capitulation. Those who work their arses of to bring on change, I'll salute.
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@Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado "why would I vote"
You wouldn't. It would interfere with your carefully cultivated worthlessness.
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@benroyce @Pine_Affinity @pascaline @Netraven @mcnado
Here is a simple difference:
Democrats:
Advocate for the use of the scientific method, and the improvements in life from the Enlightenment, the New Deal, and the Civil Rights movement. Also, that people are basically good, and should choose what they want to believe or not believe, and have control over their own bodies.Republicans:
Believe that the Bible (KJV, of course) is the literal word of their vindictive god, who was created by dudes who got lost in a desert, and failed to ask their wives for directions. Then they created a demi-god myth based on a Jewish dude who was executed for pissing off the Romans. They want to turn the US into the theocratic hellscape envisioned by the Calvinist colonizers (see Project 2025). Then they want a war in the ME, for all the Jews to convert to their brand of "Christianity," all so -only they- get raptured up into their heaven, to live in eternity with their brutal god.That, friends, is the difference.
The Democrats recently removed opposition to the death penalty from their platform and violated national and international law by arming Israel.
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@Pine_Affinity @TagYourToe @Netraven @mcnado
and yet here you are, endlessly commenting on how being proud of alienation from making a difference in the world is totally awesome
i mean, great snark? good for you? applause?
perfect is not on the menu. expecting that before acting is moronic
imagine the difference in the USA if all the empty whiners about not voting on social media just fucking showed up and voted, especially in the primaries
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@Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado
yes
and so you argue for voting in the primaries, and showing the fuck up, to stop this
right?
you think i am defending centrist dems while i argue continually for showing the fuck up in the primaries to replace them?
are you arguing against what i am really saying?
or do you think you can play a shell game and lie to yourself about what i am saying and prove anything other than that you can't follow the simple fucking point
