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Nothing gives Israel a special right to invade neighbors, bulldoze their homes, and create a DMZ.

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  • msbellows@c.imM msbellows@c.im

    @benroyce @Pine_Affinity @pascaline @Netraven @mcnado It really isn't rocket science: vote principle in the primary, vote party in the general election. The first is how you keep Democrats honest and move them to the left. The second is how you keep outright fascists out of power.

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    @msbellows @benroyce @Pine_Affinity @pascaline @Netraven @mcnado

    If your Democrat is very left (IE far to the right of our sane parties) then they may pick up few votes from Republicans disgusted with their Party.

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    • J jakekb@mastodon.social

      @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado I really don't understand why can't Americans accept that the democratic party is an imperialist party for the elites that doesn't answer to its people. Why can't you build actual grassroot movements and put forward your own candidates that are not compromised by the democratic party systems of control? Far easier task than changing the democratic party from within.

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      @JakeKb @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado I blame it on the surveillance state, the First Past the Post system, and especially the deep and apparently irreparable social isolation. These aren't conditions conducive to political organizing.

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      • mikelovesbikes@hear-me.socialM mikelovesbikes@hear-me.social

        @JakeKb @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado I blame it on the surveillance state, the First Past the Post system, and especially the deep and apparently irreparable social isolation. These aren't conditions conducive to political organizing.

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        @mikelovesbikes @JakeKb @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

        and people who speak from a position of ignorance on the usa voting system like jake are not helping. in fact what they argue for only helps MAGA

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        • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

          The Hill believes a leadership change is unlikely.
          https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5807683-schumer-future-senate-leadership/
          @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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          @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado And? If your friends tell you to jump off a cliff because the Raptor is happening tomorrow, are you gonna jump off a cliff? Or think and strategize? I hate this self-defeating shit. If you won't DO anything to change the world, OF COURSE nothing will change. Sitting on your ass and whining is the worst response.

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          • thepoliticalcat@mastodon.socialT thepoliticalcat@mastodon.social

            @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado And? If your friends tell you to jump off a cliff because the Raptor is happening tomorrow, are you gonna jump off a cliff? Or think and strategize? I hate this self-defeating shit. If you won't DO anything to change the world, OF COURSE nothing will change. Sitting on your ass and whining is the worst response.

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            @thepoliticalcat @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

            "because the Raptor is happening tomorrow"

            you mean rapture but PLEASE do not correct your typo, it is exquisite

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            • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

              why would I vote for this party?
              https://www.commondreams.org/news/schumer-israel-aid
              @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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              @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado "why would I vote"

              You wouldn't. It would interfere with your carefully cultivated worthlessness.

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @thepoliticalcat @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

                "because the Raptor is happening tomorrow"

                you mean rapture but PLEASE do not correct your typo, it is exquisite

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                @benroyce @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado No, I actually DO mean "Raptor." Some lunatics announced it a few days ago, and posted a Velociraptor and a Pastor Raptor pic with it, and I was simply enchanted. I want to participate in the Raptor!

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                • thepoliticalcat@mastodon.socialT thepoliticalcat@mastodon.social

                  @benroyce @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado No, I actually DO mean "Raptor." Some lunatics announced it a few days ago, and posted a Velociraptor and a Pastor Raptor pic with it, and I was simply enchanted. I want to participate in the Raptor!

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                  @thepoliticalcat @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

                  The Raptor is coming

                  Praise be

                  We will be judged and if found wanting we will be consumed

                  If we are pure we will pass to the realm of dino delights

                  HALLELUJAH!

                  😂

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                  • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

                    @A_Minion

                    Yup there is none.
                    Just like there is no "cast them all into a volcano" option

                    Would that there was, but there isn't

                    What you get is the optician's exam - Is 1 better, or 2. 1 or 2. If you stand away and don't choose, you get shitty spectacles, not the magical ones you imagine, not do your eyes suddenly improve on their own.

                    @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

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                    @screwturn if only there were, actually, a "cast them all into a volcano" option

                    then only the most confident and thoughtful persons would run.

                    however, I know Nevada has a NOTA option on their ballots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_of_These_Candidates

                    @A_Minion @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

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                    • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

                      It’s not my cynicism, it’s an assertion by The Hill.
                      Pockets of Dems have been calling for him to step down for over a year and here we are. By what mechanism will that change?
                      @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                      @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado oh no! The Hill!?! Well if a tabloid said it, that certainly gives you an excuse to stay home and not do anything!

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                      • A amoshias@esq.social

                        @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado oh no! The Hill!?! Well if a tabloid said it, that certainly gives you an excuse to stay home and not do anything!

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                        @Amoshias @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

                        "i stand against the corrupt status quo

                        ...

                        i accept the lies of the corrupt mouthpieces of the status quo to justify my indolence and cynical acceptance via inaction of the corrupt status quo"

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                        • tagyourtoe@mastodon.socialT tagyourtoe@mastodon.social

                          @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado "why would I vote"

                          You wouldn't. It would interfere with your carefully cultivated worthlessness.

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                          @TagYourToe @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven

                          my partner will not donate to DSCC, which is mailing us in the postal mail all the time for contributions, until he is gone. all money begs are returned in the envelope with no money, but sharpie art and words explaining that constraint very explicitly.

                          ...going back to the original post by @mcnado , perhaps a thing to test in primaries is whether the candidates support properly requiring AIPAC to register as a foreign agent. they are lobbying on behalf of Israel ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act#Allegations_of_selective_enforcement

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                          • drangnon@hachyderm.ioD drangnon@hachyderm.io

                            @screwturn if only there were, actually, a "cast them all into a volcano" option

                            then only the most confident and thoughtful persons would run.

                            however, I know Nevada has a NOTA option on their ballots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_of_These_Candidates

                            @A_Minion @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

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                            @draNgNon @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

                            Thanks, It never occurred to me to look it up. I guess it's just too obvious and thought folks would have said something if it existed, well, either that or boy am I dense. I'll go the the former to salve my wounded ego. . . 8*) The Volcano option is sure enticing tho as a permanent solution.

                            Peace

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                            • drangnon@hachyderm.ioD drangnon@hachyderm.io

                              @TagYourToe @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven

                              my partner will not donate to DSCC, which is mailing us in the postal mail all the time for contributions, until he is gone. all money begs are returned in the envelope with no money, but sharpie art and words explaining that constraint very explicitly.

                              ...going back to the original post by @mcnado , perhaps a thing to test in primaries is whether the candidates support properly requiring AIPAC to register as a foreign agent. they are lobbying on behalf of Israel ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act#Allegations_of_selective_enforcement

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                              @draNgNon @TagYourToe @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

                              more usefully, show up in the primaries and vote for the candidate who does not accept dark money

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                              • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                                @draNgNon @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

                                Thanks, It never occurred to me to look it up. I guess it's just too obvious and thought folks would have said something if it existed, well, either that or boy am I dense. I'll go the the former to salve my wounded ego. . . 8*) The Volcano option is sure enticing tho as a permanent solution.

                                Peace

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                                @A_Minion lol I only looked it up becuase I remember them doing it and hoping it would catch on. nearness matters, I'm in Cali and have friends living in Nevada 😄

                                imagine how different things would be if NOTA + Ranked Choice was the law of the land

                                @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

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                                  @A_Minion lol I only looked it up becuase I remember them doing it and hoping it would catch on. nearness matters, I'm in Cali and have friends living in Nevada 😄

                                  imagine how different things would be if NOTA + Ranked Choice was the law of the land

                                  @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

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                                  @draNgNon @A_Minion @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

                                  which we get by supporting dem candidates who say so

                                  not because dems are perfect, but because you have dems against RCV and dems for it, and we have to make that choice

                                  meawhile the GOP in 2024 took a blanket stand against RCV

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                                  • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

                                    @Pine_Affinity

                                    Was Biden better than the Orange guy?
                                    Was Kamal better than the Orange guy?

                                    We got the worst option because people who should have voted for her, just never showed up

                                    @JakeKb @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                                    @screwturn

                                    I agree with you that there is a qualitative difference between them and that not voting at all or even voting for trump is beyond stupid.

                                    Still, blaming the current situation solely on them is ignoring reality. Every US president has killed many thousands of people, many of them noncombatants.

                                    The USA is an imperialist state which is controlled by capitalists. They are the driving force behind this.

                                    It is like pumping the brakes one meter before the cliff. People need to organize

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @thepoliticalcat @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

                                      "because the Raptor is happening tomorrow"

                                      you mean rapture but PLEASE do not correct your typo, it is exquisite

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                                      @Pine_Affinity @thepoliticalcat @mcnado @Netraven @benroyce Hear hear!

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @Amoshias @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

                                        "i stand against the corrupt status quo

                                        ...

                                        i accept the lies of the corrupt mouthpieces of the status quo to justify my indolence and cynical acceptance via inaction of the corrupt status quo"

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                                        @benroyce @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado "I stand against the corrupt status quo SO FIRMLY that if I cannot take an action which immediately and irrevocably smashes that status quo, I am going to do nothing at all!"

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @draNgNon @A_Minion @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

                                          which we get by supporting dem candidates who say so

                                          not because dems are perfect, but because you have dems against RCV and dems for it, and we have to make that choice

                                          meawhile the GOP in 2024 took a blanket stand against RCV

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                                          @benroyce @draNgNon @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

                                          Even tho we don't have much choice in a presidential election we have massive choice in House & Senate. If we pick those candidates there it will put pressure on the President . . . But that requires fore thought Maybe even 5 thought. But only 6 years tho 2 would be enough.

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