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Nothing gives Israel a special right to invade neighbors, bulldoze their homes, and create a DMZ.

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  • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

    Is this behavior enabling fascism?

    @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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    @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

    yes

    and so you argue for voting in the primaries, and showing the fuck up, to stop this

    right?

    you think i am defending centrist dems while i argue continually for showing the fuck up in the primaries to replace them?

    are you arguing against what i am really saying?

    or do you think you can play a shell game and lie to yourself about what i am saying and prove anything other than that you can't follow the simple fucking point

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @Pine_Affinity @pascaline @Netraven @mcnado

      how many times have i written "show up in the primaries"

      do you understand what a primary is?

      how did we get mamdani?

      was it because of people like you going "nothing changes. waah. everything sucks and then you die. waah"

      or was it from people voting?

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      @benroyce @Pine_Affinity @pascaline @Netraven @mcnado

      Here is a simple difference:

      Democrats:
      Advocate for the use of the scientific method, and the improvements in life from the Enlightenment, the New Deal, and the Civil Rights movement. Also, that people are basically good, and should choose what they want to believe or not believe, and have control over their own bodies.

      Republicans:
      Believe that the Bible (KJV, of course) is the literal word of their vindictive god, who was created by dudes who got lost in a desert, and failed to ask their wives for directions. Then they created a demi-god myth based on a Jewish dude who was executed for pissing off the Romans. They want to turn the US into the theocratic hellscape envisioned by the Calvinist colonizers (see Project 2025). Then they want a war in the ME, for all the Jews to convert to their brand of "Christianity," all so -only they- get raptured up into their heaven, to live in eternity with their brutal god.

      That, friends, is the difference.

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      • msbellows@c.imM msbellows@c.im

        @benroyce @Pine_Affinity @pascaline @Netraven @mcnado It really isn't rocket science: vote principle in the primary, vote party in the general election. The first is how you keep Democrats honest and move them to the left. The second is how you keep outright fascists out of power.

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        @msbellows @benroyce @Pine_Affinity @pascaline @Netraven @mcnado

        If your Democrat is very left (IE far to the right of our sane parties) then they may pick up few votes from Republicans disgusted with their Party.

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        • J jakekb@mastodon.social

          @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado I really don't understand why can't Americans accept that the democratic party is an imperialist party for the elites that doesn't answer to its people. Why can't you build actual grassroot movements and put forward your own candidates that are not compromised by the democratic party systems of control? Far easier task than changing the democratic party from within.

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          @JakeKb @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado I blame it on the surveillance state, the First Past the Post system, and especially the deep and apparently irreparable social isolation. These aren't conditions conducive to political organizing.

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          • mikelovesbikes@hear-me.socialM mikelovesbikes@hear-me.social

            @JakeKb @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado I blame it on the surveillance state, the First Past the Post system, and especially the deep and apparently irreparable social isolation. These aren't conditions conducive to political organizing.

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            @mikelovesbikes @JakeKb @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

            and people who speak from a position of ignorance on the usa voting system like jake are not helping. in fact what they argue for only helps MAGA

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            • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

              The Hill believes a leadership change is unlikely.
              https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5807683-schumer-future-senate-leadership/
              @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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              @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado And? If your friends tell you to jump off a cliff because the Raptor is happening tomorrow, are you gonna jump off a cliff? Or think and strategize? I hate this self-defeating shit. If you won't DO anything to change the world, OF COURSE nothing will change. Sitting on your ass and whining is the worst response.

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              • thepoliticalcat@mastodon.socialT thepoliticalcat@mastodon.social

                @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado And? If your friends tell you to jump off a cliff because the Raptor is happening tomorrow, are you gonna jump off a cliff? Or think and strategize? I hate this self-defeating shit. If you won't DO anything to change the world, OF COURSE nothing will change. Sitting on your ass and whining is the worst response.

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                @thepoliticalcat @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

                "because the Raptor is happening tomorrow"

                you mean rapture but PLEASE do not correct your typo, it is exquisite

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                • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

                  why would I vote for this party?
                  https://www.commondreams.org/news/schumer-israel-aid
                  @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                  @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado "why would I vote"

                  You wouldn't. It would interfere with your carefully cultivated worthlessness.

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @thepoliticalcat @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

                    "because the Raptor is happening tomorrow"

                    you mean rapture but PLEASE do not correct your typo, it is exquisite

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                    @benroyce @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado No, I actually DO mean "Raptor." Some lunatics announced it a few days ago, and posted a Velociraptor and a Pastor Raptor pic with it, and I was simply enchanted. I want to participate in the Raptor!

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                    • thepoliticalcat@mastodon.socialT thepoliticalcat@mastodon.social

                      @benroyce @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado No, I actually DO mean "Raptor." Some lunatics announced it a few days ago, and posted a Velociraptor and a Pastor Raptor pic with it, and I was simply enchanted. I want to participate in the Raptor!

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                      @thepoliticalcat @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

                      The Raptor is coming

                      Praise be

                      We will be judged and if found wanting we will be consumed

                      If we are pure we will pass to the realm of dino delights

                      HALLELUJAH!

                      😂

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                      • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

                        @A_Minion

                        Yup there is none.
                        Just like there is no "cast them all into a volcano" option

                        Would that there was, but there isn't

                        What you get is the optician's exam - Is 1 better, or 2. 1 or 2. If you stand away and don't choose, you get shitty spectacles, not the magical ones you imagine, not do your eyes suddenly improve on their own.

                        @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

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                        @screwturn if only there were, actually, a "cast them all into a volcano" option

                        then only the most confident and thoughtful persons would run.

                        however, I know Nevada has a NOTA option on their ballots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_of_These_Candidates

                        @A_Minion @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

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                        • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

                          It’s not my cynicism, it’s an assertion by The Hill.
                          Pockets of Dems have been calling for him to step down for over a year and here we are. By what mechanism will that change?
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                          @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado oh no! The Hill!?! Well if a tabloid said it, that certainly gives you an excuse to stay home and not do anything!

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                          • A amoshias@esq.social

                            @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado oh no! The Hill!?! Well if a tabloid said it, that certainly gives you an excuse to stay home and not do anything!

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                            @Amoshias @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

                            "i stand against the corrupt status quo

                            ...

                            i accept the lies of the corrupt mouthpieces of the status quo to justify my indolence and cynical acceptance via inaction of the corrupt status quo"

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                            • tagyourtoe@mastodon.socialT tagyourtoe@mastodon.social

                              @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado "why would I vote"

                              You wouldn't. It would interfere with your carefully cultivated worthlessness.

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                              @TagYourToe @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven

                              my partner will not donate to DSCC, which is mailing us in the postal mail all the time for contributions, until he is gone. all money begs are returned in the envelope with no money, but sharpie art and words explaining that constraint very explicitly.

                              ...going back to the original post by @mcnado , perhaps a thing to test in primaries is whether the candidates support properly requiring AIPAC to register as a foreign agent. they are lobbying on behalf of Israel ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act#Allegations_of_selective_enforcement

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                              • drangnon@hachyderm.ioD drangnon@hachyderm.io

                                @screwturn if only there were, actually, a "cast them all into a volcano" option

                                then only the most confident and thoughtful persons would run.

                                however, I know Nevada has a NOTA option on their ballots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_of_These_Candidates

                                @A_Minion @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

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                                @draNgNon @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

                                Thanks, It never occurred to me to look it up. I guess it's just too obvious and thought folks would have said something if it existed, well, either that or boy am I dense. I'll go the the former to salve my wounded ego. . . 8*) The Volcano option is sure enticing tho as a permanent solution.

                                Peace

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                                • drangnon@hachyderm.ioD drangnon@hachyderm.io

                                  @TagYourToe @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven

                                  my partner will not donate to DSCC, which is mailing us in the postal mail all the time for contributions, until he is gone. all money begs are returned in the envelope with no money, but sharpie art and words explaining that constraint very explicitly.

                                  ...going back to the original post by @mcnado , perhaps a thing to test in primaries is whether the candidates support properly requiring AIPAC to register as a foreign agent. they are lobbying on behalf of Israel ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act#Allegations_of_selective_enforcement

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                                  @draNgNon @TagYourToe @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

                                  more usefully, show up in the primaries and vote for the candidate who does not accept dark money

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                                  • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                                    @draNgNon @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

                                    Thanks, It never occurred to me to look it up. I guess it's just too obvious and thought folks would have said something if it existed, well, either that or boy am I dense. I'll go the the former to salve my wounded ego. . . 8*) The Volcano option is sure enticing tho as a permanent solution.

                                    Peace

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                                    @A_Minion lol I only looked it up becuase I remember them doing it and hoping it would catch on. nearness matters, I'm in Cali and have friends living in Nevada 😄

                                    imagine how different things would be if NOTA + Ranked Choice was the law of the land

                                    @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

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                                      @A_Minion lol I only looked it up becuase I remember them doing it and hoping it would catch on. nearness matters, I'm in Cali and have friends living in Nevada 😄

                                      imagine how different things would be if NOTA + Ranked Choice was the law of the land

                                      @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @benroyce @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

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                                      @draNgNon @A_Minion @screwturn @Kierkegaanks @Netraven @JakeKb @mcnado @Pine_Affinity

                                      which we get by supporting dem candidates who say so

                                      not because dems are perfect, but because you have dems against RCV and dems for it, and we have to make that choice

                                      meawhile the GOP in 2024 took a blanket stand against RCV

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                                      • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

                                        @Pine_Affinity

                                        Was Biden better than the Orange guy?
                                        Was Kamal better than the Orange guy?

                                        We got the worst option because people who should have voted for her, just never showed up

                                        @JakeKb @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                                        @screwturn

                                        I agree with you that there is a qualitative difference between them and that not voting at all or even voting for trump is beyond stupid.

                                        Still, blaming the current situation solely on them is ignoring reality. Every US president has killed many thousands of people, many of them noncombatants.

                                        The USA is an imperialist state which is controlled by capitalists. They are the driving force behind this.

                                        It is like pumping the brakes one meter before the cliff. People need to organize

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @thepoliticalcat @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

                                          "because the Raptor is happening tomorrow"

                                          you mean rapture but PLEASE do not correct your typo, it is exquisite

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                                          @Pine_Affinity @thepoliticalcat @mcnado @Netraven @benroyce Hear hear!

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