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  3. ahh, the HP 9133A - the largest and heaviest external 3 1/2" floppy drive ever built.

ahh, the HP 9133A - the largest and heaviest external 3 1/2" floppy drive ever built.

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  • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

    the motor won't move. I think it is stiction. ugh.

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    yeah all the heads are stuck. trying a heat gun now...

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    • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

      ahh, the HP 9133A - the largest and heaviest external 3 1/2" floppy drive ever built. let's get it working! 🧵

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      @tubetime

      Hola AMIGO.

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      • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

        yeah all the heads are stuck. trying a heat gun now...

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        @tubetime Tap on the side with a hammer often sorted that. 😅

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        • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

          yeah all the heads are stuck. trying a heat gun now...

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          it spins, but it sounds bad. not much hope for this drive, unfortunately.

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          • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

            it spins, but it sounds bad. not much hope for this drive, unfortunately.

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            the Gesswein MFM emulator was able to capture a flux transition dump! i used their mfm_util to analyze it, and it is a very odd format: check out the command line:

            --format EC1841 --sectors 32,0 --heads 4 --cylinders 153 --header_crc 0x0,0xa00805,32,4 --data_crc 0x0,0xa00805,32,4 --sector_length 256

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            • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

              the Gesswein MFM emulator was able to capture a flux transition dump! i used their mfm_util to analyze it, and it is a very odd format: check out the command line:

              --format EC1841 --sectors 32,0 --heads 4 --cylinders 153 --header_crc 0x0,0xa00805,32,4 --data_crc 0x0,0xa00805,32,4 --sector_length 256

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              example output of the analyze command... some bad sectors, but a lot of good ones!

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              • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                example output of the analyze command... some bad sectors, but a lot of good ones!

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                output of 'strings' shows some cool stuff!

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                • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                  output of 'strings' shows some cool stuff!

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                  the HPIB verification program for the HP5005B signature analyzer. wild

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                  • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                    the motor won't move. I think it is stiction. ugh.

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                    @tubetime I feel like knowing what stiction is, without looking it up, dates us. 🤔

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                    • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                      yeah all the heads are stuck. trying a heat gun now...

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                      @tubetime
                      Maybe it just needs some Head and Shoulders (TM).

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                      • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                        a single-sided 3.5" drive head is something you don't see every day. they were never that common.

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                        @tubetime
                        Apple sold tons of 3.5" single-sided drives (Sony mechanism, but special for Apple, because... Apple.)
                        They were uncommon in PCs.

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                        • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                          example output of the analyze command... some bad sectors, but a lot of good ones!

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                          @tubetime

                          My AutoArchaeologist toolkit can turn the LIF filesystems into static HTML files so you can spelunk the contents.

                          Example:

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                          ⟦056ab17c6⟧

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                          (phk.freebsd.dk)

                          Software:

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                          AutoArchaeologist

                          AutoArchaeologist - Python tool-chest for presenting contents of old data-media as static HTML files.

                          favicon

                          Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)

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                          • bsdphk@fosstodon.orgB bsdphk@fosstodon.org

                            @tubetime

                            My AutoArchaeologist toolkit can turn the LIF filesystems into static HTML files so you can spelunk the contents.

                            Example:

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                            ⟦056ab17c6⟧

                            favicon

                            (phk.freebsd.dk)

                            Software:

                            Link Preview Image
                            AutoArchaeologist

                            AutoArchaeologist - Python tool-chest for presenting contents of old data-media as static HTML files.

                            favicon

                            Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)

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                            @bsdphk useful, can it handle partially corrupted images?

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                            • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                              @bsdphk useful, can it handle partially corrupted images?

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                              @tubetime

                              I dont know how robust the LIF excavator is, I have only written/tried it on good images, but the general idea of AA is to handle whatever you throw at it, as well as possibe.

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                              • bsdphk@fosstodon.orgB bsdphk@fosstodon.org

                                @tubetime

                                I dont know how robust the LIF excavator is, I have only written/tried it on good images, but the general idea of AA is to handle whatever you throw at it, as well as possibe.

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                                @tubetime

                                The fastest way to find out, is probably if you send me the image, but I can also walk you through the setup so you can run AA yourself.

                                (I've never finished the proper python packaging so it's a bit manual)

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                                • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                  example output of the analyze command... some bad sectors, but a lot of good ones!

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                                  @tubetime

                                  With some effort it may be possible to recover more if its just heads were pulled out of alignment when they were stuck.

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                                  Data recovery using microstepper

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                                  If you want me to take a look at your transitions file to see if I think that method may work send me a private message.

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                                  • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                    yeah all the heads are stuck. trying a heat gun now...

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                                    @tubetime There’s just a lot of data in that cylinder them heads are reading. 🤣

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                                    • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                      it spins, but it sounds bad. not much hope for this drive, unfortunately.

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                                      @tubetime Try SpinRite 6.0 that will fix it right up.

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                                      • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                        it spins, but it sounds bad. not much hope for this drive, unfortunately.

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                                        @tubetime Don't feel bad. I had a Data General Nova at work that I used to collect and process data from flight testing. One day, the machine made a sound like bad brakes. I asked one of the admins, who said, "Oh, yeah. That happens from time to time. We always lose a bit of disk space when that happens."

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                                        • bsdphk@fosstodon.orgB bsdphk@fosstodon.org

                                          @tubetime

                                          The fastest way to find out, is probably if you send me the image, but I can also walk you through the setup so you can run AA yourself.

                                          (I've never finished the proper python packaging so it's a bit manual)

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                                          @bsdphk i'm going to try and get a better image file, then i will give it a shot.

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