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  3. ahh, the HP 9133A - the largest and heaviest external 3 1/2" floppy drive ever built.

ahh, the HP 9133A - the largest and heaviest external 3 1/2" floppy drive ever built.

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  • vk3kri@mastodon.radioV vk3kri@mastodon.radio

    @tubetime

    Does that have HP-IB interface?

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    @vk3kri yes

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    • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

      and it tests good! the weird 26-pin HP interface is natively supported by my Floppy Exerciser board (https://github.com/schlae/FloppyExerciser)

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      on to the surprise hard drive. but, no surprise, it won't spin up and pulls a bunch of current on 12v. hmmm.

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        on to the surprise hard drive. but, no surprise, it won't spin up and pulls a bunch of current on 12v. hmmm.

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        the motor won't move. I think it is stiction. ugh.

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        • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

          whoops, surprise hard drive inside!

          this one is a Seagate ST-506, a MFM drive with a whopping 5MB capacity!

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          @tubetime Dude, that is the OG Hard Drive there, ya gotta respect what it heralded in the years to come. I mean sure, you can get a short M.2 drive today that holds as much as a million of those drives could but hey, on a minicomputer or a CP/M system, it was So Much Space!

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          • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

            the floppy drive is the extremely ancient Sony OA-D31V-1. it's not the first one to come out. more like the second one.

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            @tubetime are these from the time that 3.5" disks had shutters with rounded apertures, and the shutters latched open? I remember some of my Dad's HP kit was like that

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            • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

              the motor won't move. I think it is stiction. ugh.

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              yeah all the heads are stuck. trying a heat gun now...

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              • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                ahh, the HP 9133A - the largest and heaviest external 3 1/2" floppy drive ever built. let's get it working! 🧵

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                @tubetime

                Hola AMIGO.

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                • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                  yeah all the heads are stuck. trying a heat gun now...

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                  @tubetime Tap on the side with a hammer often sorted that. 😅

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                    yeah all the heads are stuck. trying a heat gun now...

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                    it spins, but it sounds bad. not much hope for this drive, unfortunately.

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                      it spins, but it sounds bad. not much hope for this drive, unfortunately.

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                      the Gesswein MFM emulator was able to capture a flux transition dump! i used their mfm_util to analyze it, and it is a very odd format: check out the command line:

                      --format EC1841 --sectors 32,0 --heads 4 --cylinders 153 --header_crc 0x0,0xa00805,32,4 --data_crc 0x0,0xa00805,32,4 --sector_length 256

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                        the Gesswein MFM emulator was able to capture a flux transition dump! i used their mfm_util to analyze it, and it is a very odd format: check out the command line:

                        --format EC1841 --sectors 32,0 --heads 4 --cylinders 153 --header_crc 0x0,0xa00805,32,4 --data_crc 0x0,0xa00805,32,4 --sector_length 256

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                        example output of the analyze command... some bad sectors, but a lot of good ones!

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                          example output of the analyze command... some bad sectors, but a lot of good ones!

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                          output of 'strings' shows some cool stuff!

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                            output of 'strings' shows some cool stuff!

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                            the HPIB verification program for the HP5005B signature analyzer. wild

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                            • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                              the motor won't move. I think it is stiction. ugh.

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                              @tubetime I feel like knowing what stiction is, without looking it up, dates us. 🤔

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                                yeah all the heads are stuck. trying a heat gun now...

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                                @tubetime
                                Maybe it just needs some Head and Shoulders (TM).

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                                • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                  a single-sided 3.5" drive head is something you don't see every day. they were never that common.

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                                  @tubetime
                                  Apple sold tons of 3.5" single-sided drives (Sony mechanism, but special for Apple, because... Apple.)
                                  They were uncommon in PCs.

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                                    example output of the analyze command... some bad sectors, but a lot of good ones!

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                                    @tubetime

                                    My AutoArchaeologist toolkit can turn the LIF filesystems into static HTML files so you can spelunk the contents.

                                    Example:

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                                    Software:

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                                    AutoArchaeologist

                                    AutoArchaeologist - Python tool-chest for presenting contents of old data-media as static HTML files.

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                                    Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)

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                                      @tubetime

                                      My AutoArchaeologist toolkit can turn the LIF filesystems into static HTML files so you can spelunk the contents.

                                      Example:

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                                      (phk.freebsd.dk)

                                      Software:

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                                      AutoArchaeologist

                                      AutoArchaeologist - Python tool-chest for presenting contents of old data-media as static HTML files.

                                      favicon

                                      Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)

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                                      @bsdphk useful, can it handle partially corrupted images?

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                                        @bsdphk useful, can it handle partially corrupted images?

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                                        @tubetime

                                        I dont know how robust the LIF excavator is, I have only written/tried it on good images, but the general idea of AA is to handle whatever you throw at it, as well as possibe.

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                                        • bsdphk@fosstodon.orgB bsdphk@fosstodon.org

                                          @tubetime

                                          I dont know how robust the LIF excavator is, I have only written/tried it on good images, but the general idea of AA is to handle whatever you throw at it, as well as possibe.

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                                          @tubetime

                                          The fastest way to find out, is probably if you send me the image, but I can also walk you through the setup so you can run AA yourself.

                                          (I've never finished the proper python packaging so it's a bit manual)

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