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  3. ahh, the HP 9133A - the largest and heaviest external 3 1/2" floppy drive ever built.

ahh, the HP 9133A - the largest and heaviest external 3 1/2" floppy drive ever built.

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  • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

    the floppy drive is the extremely ancient Sony OA-D31V-1. it's not the first one to come out. more like the second one.

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    @tubetime are these from the time that 3.5" disks had shutters with rounded apertures, and the shutters latched open? I remember some of my Dad's HP kit was like that

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    • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

      the motor won't move. I think it is stiction. ugh.

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      yeah all the heads are stuck. trying a heat gun now...

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      • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

        ahh, the HP 9133A - the largest and heaviest external 3 1/2" floppy drive ever built. let's get it working! 🧵

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        @tubetime

        Hola AMIGO.

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        • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

          yeah all the heads are stuck. trying a heat gun now...

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          @tubetime Tap on the side with a hammer often sorted that. 😅

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          • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

            yeah all the heads are stuck. trying a heat gun now...

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            it spins, but it sounds bad. not much hope for this drive, unfortunately.

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            • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

              it spins, but it sounds bad. not much hope for this drive, unfortunately.

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              the Gesswein MFM emulator was able to capture a flux transition dump! i used their mfm_util to analyze it, and it is a very odd format: check out the command line:

              --format EC1841 --sectors 32,0 --heads 4 --cylinders 153 --header_crc 0x0,0xa00805,32,4 --data_crc 0x0,0xa00805,32,4 --sector_length 256

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              • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                the Gesswein MFM emulator was able to capture a flux transition dump! i used their mfm_util to analyze it, and it is a very odd format: check out the command line:

                --format EC1841 --sectors 32,0 --heads 4 --cylinders 153 --header_crc 0x0,0xa00805,32,4 --data_crc 0x0,0xa00805,32,4 --sector_length 256

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                example output of the analyze command... some bad sectors, but a lot of good ones!

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                • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                  example output of the analyze command... some bad sectors, but a lot of good ones!

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                  output of 'strings' shows some cool stuff!

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                    output of 'strings' shows some cool stuff!

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                    the HPIB verification program for the HP5005B signature analyzer. wild

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                    • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                      the motor won't move. I think it is stiction. ugh.

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                      @tubetime I feel like knowing what stiction is, without looking it up, dates us. 🤔

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                      • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                        yeah all the heads are stuck. trying a heat gun now...

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                        @tubetime
                        Maybe it just needs some Head and Shoulders (TM).

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                        • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                          a single-sided 3.5" drive head is something you don't see every day. they were never that common.

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                          @tubetime
                          Apple sold tons of 3.5" single-sided drives (Sony mechanism, but special for Apple, because... Apple.)
                          They were uncommon in PCs.

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                          • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                            example output of the analyze command... some bad sectors, but a lot of good ones!

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                            @tubetime

                            My AutoArchaeologist toolkit can turn the LIF filesystems into static HTML files so you can spelunk the contents.

                            Example:

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                            ⟦056ab17c6⟧

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                            (phk.freebsd.dk)

                            Software:

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                            AutoArchaeologist

                            AutoArchaeologist - Python tool-chest for presenting contents of old data-media as static HTML files.

                            favicon

                            Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)

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                              @tubetime

                              My AutoArchaeologist toolkit can turn the LIF filesystems into static HTML files so you can spelunk the contents.

                              Example:

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                              ⟦056ab17c6⟧

                              favicon

                              (phk.freebsd.dk)

                              Software:

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                              AutoArchaeologist

                              AutoArchaeologist - Python tool-chest for presenting contents of old data-media as static HTML files.

                              favicon

                              Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)

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                              @bsdphk useful, can it handle partially corrupted images?

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                              • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                @bsdphk useful, can it handle partially corrupted images?

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                                @tubetime

                                I dont know how robust the LIF excavator is, I have only written/tried it on good images, but the general idea of AA is to handle whatever you throw at it, as well as possibe.

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                                • bsdphk@fosstodon.orgB bsdphk@fosstodon.org

                                  @tubetime

                                  I dont know how robust the LIF excavator is, I have only written/tried it on good images, but the general idea of AA is to handle whatever you throw at it, as well as possibe.

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                                  @tubetime

                                  The fastest way to find out, is probably if you send me the image, but I can also walk you through the setup so you can run AA yourself.

                                  (I've never finished the proper python packaging so it's a bit manual)

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                                  • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                    example output of the analyze command... some bad sectors, but a lot of good ones!

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                                    @tubetime

                                    With some effort it may be possible to recover more if its just heads were pulled out of alignment when they were stuck.

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                                    Data recovery using microstepper

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                                    If you want me to take a look at your transitions file to see if I think that method may work send me a private message.

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                                    • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                      yeah all the heads are stuck. trying a heat gun now...

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                                      @tubetime There’s just a lot of data in that cylinder them heads are reading. 🤣

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                                      • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                        it spins, but it sounds bad. not much hope for this drive, unfortunately.

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                                        @tubetime Try SpinRite 6.0 that will fix it right up.

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                                        • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                          it spins, but it sounds bad. not much hope for this drive, unfortunately.

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                                          @tubetime Don't feel bad. I had a Data General Nova at work that I used to collect and process data from flight testing. One day, the machine made a sound like bad brakes. I asked one of the admins, who said, "Oh, yeah. That happens from time to time. We always lose a bit of disk space when that happens."

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