to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a 'systemd compatibility layer'.

[neal@social.gompa.me]

@ariadne Why are people freaking out about this? It doesn't matter. The sloppy article aside, nothing about this is new as far as I knew...

[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]

@ariadne you can use systemd-udevd separately?

[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]

@whitequark yes

[weirdtreething@donotsta.re]

@ariadne it's annoying to see stuff like this which suggests you can't use alpine on a desktop system

[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]

@neal because the article is disinformation

[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]

@bremner debian is using AI huh? yeah, i'm sure debbugs is really super friendly to AI tooling, right?

[sakurina@icosahedron.website]

@bremner @ariadne it's so sad... the Linux Journal used to be an institution and now it's devolved into this

[neal@social.gompa.me]

@ariadne Sigh...

[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]

@neal like linuxjournal.com right now, last two articles are totally AI slop disinformation

one about alpine and one about debian

i'm sure "george" will do fedora in time

[neal@social.gompa.me]

@ariadne Yeah, it's probably going to happen with something particularly dumb too. I can already see it coming...

[bremner@mathstodon.xyz]

@ariadne I dunno, all I get out of our admin team is anatomically unlikely suggestions for scraper operators.

[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]

@sakurina @bremner honestly i wonder if the site has been compromised because it is pretty wild to publish that Debian is using AI to filter bugs and Alpine is adopting a 'systemd compatibility layer'

[alwayscurious@infosec.exchange]

@ariadne Is it safe to assume that shims for systemd APIs needed by things like GNOME aren’t a “systemd compatibility layer” for this purpose?

[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]

@alwayscurious i do not know *what* the article means by 'systemd compatibility layer', but it describes libsystemd coming to alpine which has not happened

[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]

also, it is funny that the article talks about proprietary software not working on alpine

in general, this is not a concern in the alpine community, and we do support flatpak

[brett_e_carlock@mastodon.online]

@weirdtreething
Yeah, it is really unfortunate as Alpine is what finally convinced me Linux was viable as a personal computing OS after two decades of distrohopping, multibooting, and virtualizing Linux.

@ariadne

[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]

@Brett_E_Carlock @weirdtreething indeed, maybe some of us have different priorities than the typical GNU/Linux user/developer

[xarvos@outerheaven.club]

the moment i opened the page it slapped gemini widget on my face <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://outerheaven.club/emoji/neofox/neofox_baa_256.png" title=":neofox_baa:" />

@ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

[craftyguy@freeradical.zone]

@ariadne wow, that was painful to read. Literally.

[aissen@social.treehouse.systems]

@ariadne 12 bullet lists in an article ? I love them as much as the next person, but even I know not to abuse them. No serious editor would have let this pass, seriously this is slop without even as much as a review pass.