<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;.]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a 'systemd compatibility layer'.</p><p><a href="https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/alpine-linux-experiments-systemd-compatibility-while-keeping-its-lightweight-identity" rel="nofollow noopener"><span>https://www.</span><span>linuxjournal.com/content/alpin</span><span>e-linux-experiments-systemd-compatibility-while-keeping-its-lightweight-identity</span></a> is literally AI slop</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/57998d5e-1dca-4d4b-b550-39e74d75066a/to-be-absolutely-clear-alpine-is-not-switching-to-systemd-or-implementing-a-systemd-compatibility-layer-.</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Sat, 30 May 2026 17:53:24 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/57998d5e-1dca-4d4b-b550-39e74d75066a.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 02:02:47 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Wed, 27 May 2026 01:22:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/noisytoot%40berkeley.edu.pl">@<span>noisytoot</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/eschwartz%40fosstodon.org">@<span>eschwartz</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/whitequark%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span> edge, but i am patient</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/ariadne/statuses/116643918667927345</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/ariadne/statuses/116643918667927345</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 01:22:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Wed, 27 May 2026 01:22:14 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems" rel="ugc">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/whitequark%40social.treehouse.systems" rel="ugc">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems" rel="ugc">@<span>zyx</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/eschwartz%40fosstodon.org" rel="ugc">@<span>eschwartz</span></a></span> do you run edge or stable? (I run edge on my laptop with KDE Plasma and occasionally stuff breaks)]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://berkeley.edu.pl/objects/d8c94ad4-bb43-4e8a-9371-0a4d2f8d7082</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://berkeley.edu.pl/objects/d8c94ad4-bb43-4e8a-9371-0a4d2f8d7082</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[noisytoot@berkeley.edu.pl]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 01:22:14 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Wed, 27 May 2026 01:18:14 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/eschwartz%40fosstodon.org" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>eschwartz</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span> "pain" is a good summary</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/whitequark/statuses/116643901887121943</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/whitequark/statuses/116643901887121943</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 01:18:14 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Wed, 27 May 2026 01:15:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/whitequark%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span></p><p>Basically, if you're gonna support a frankensystem where packages can either be compiled against one init system / seat manager / udev impl / lots more, or another one, it really helps to have the concept of USE flags, and I don't know what Debian does to try to support "packages depend on systemd, but we also support openrc instead" without USE flags. Maybe "foo-systemd" and "foo-openrc" packages? Sounds terrifying. "Openrc derivative with overridden repos"? Pain².</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/eschwartz/statuses/116643891194043825</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/eschwartz/statuses/116643891194043825</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[eschwartz@fosstodon.org]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 01:15:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Wed, 27 May 2026 01:08:43 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/eschwartz%40fosstodon.org" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>eschwartz</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span> thanks, this is very useful to me :3</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/whitequark/statuses/116643864480958021</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/whitequark/statuses/116643864480958021</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 01:08:43 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Wed, 27 May 2026 01:06:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/whitequark%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span></p><p>The Gentoo gui installation ISO uses kde and openrc, and connecting to WiFi to begin installation means using the NM applet. It works quite well, except for the part where kde really wants to encrypt your wifi password with the account keyring, which as a live ISO doesn't exist. (So, routine "fail to store the password and then go back into settings and re-enter the password" on every ISO boot.) But that's not the fault of an init system. <img src="https://board.circlewithadot.net/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=28325c671da" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":D" alt="😄" /></p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/eschwartz/statuses/116643857601256746</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/eschwartz/statuses/116643857601256746</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[eschwartz@fosstodon.org]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 01:06:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Wed, 27 May 2026 01:02:43 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/whitequark%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span></p><p>I have no particular idea what Debian might have done there, but generally the preferred alternative to systemd is using elogind anyways. Which should work fine. You could also try speaking to the upstream maintainers of $PACKAGE about using libseat where possible. Gentoo should support any configurations possible upstream, and possibly relevantly, Gentoo will *rebuild* if you change your configuration, not use libsystemd.so compiled binaries on openrc.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/eschwartz/statuses/116643840890481280</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/eschwartz/statuses/116643840890481280</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[eschwartz@fosstodon.org]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 01:02:43 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Wed, 27 May 2026 01:00:42 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/eschwartz%40fosstodon.org" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>eschwartz</span></a></span> does NM work?</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/whitequark/statuses/116643832972825282</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/whitequark/statuses/116643832972825282</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 01:00:42 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Wed, 27 May 2026 00:59:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/whitequark%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/eschwartz%40fosstodon.org">@<span>eschwartz</span></a></span> yes can confirm I use plasma as my daily driver on alpine.</p>

<div class="row mt-3"><div class="col-12 mt-3"><img class="img-thumbnail" src="https://cache.treehouse.systems/media_attachments/files/116/643/829/336/931/256/original/563c1bab66e718a9.jpg" alt="Link Preview Image" /></div></div>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/ariadne/statuses/116643830111484845</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/ariadne/statuses/116643830111484845</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 00:59:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Wed, 27 May 2026 00:57:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/eschwartz%40fosstodon.org" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>eschwartz</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span> to be clear this isn't a deeply researched opinion, i just used to run systemd-less debian and at some point half of plasma (networkmanager, power management, etc) broke due to some consolekit related thing i eventually traced down to "i guess i need systemd now"</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/whitequark/statuses/116643819894937027</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/whitequark/statuses/116643819894937027</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 00:57:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Wed, 27 May 2026 00:56:09 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/whitequark%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span></p><p>I'm not really sure what you mean by that... Switching away from systemd would break KDE? Shouldn't be -- KDE Plasma is packaged by alpine (no systemd option) and supported just fine on Gentoo's openrc profiles.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/eschwartz/statuses/116643815056205046</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/eschwartz/statuses/116643815056205046</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[eschwartz@fosstodon.org]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 00:56:09 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Wed, 27 May 2026 00:51:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/eschwartz%40fosstodon.org" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>eschwartz</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span> i think a lot of the concepts are sound, but a significant part of how it was implemented historically shows a lack of care that i wouldn't really consider acceptable in my work but switching away from it would break KDE which i like enough that it's a nonstarter</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/whitequark/statuses/116643797827387567</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/whitequark/statuses/116643797827387567</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 00:51:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Wed, 27 May 2026 00:47:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/eschwartz%40fosstodon.org">@<span>eschwartz</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/whitequark%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> I mean I don't really have an opinion on systemd.  the reason I use and work on Alpine is because it is an integrated OS. systemd offers some of the same benefits for the GNU/Linux crowd and that seems like a positive for GNU/Linux...</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/ariadne/statuses/116643779366760705</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/ariadne/statuses/116643779366760705</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 00:47:04 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Wed, 27 May 2026 00:37:57 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/eschwartz%40fosstodon.org" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>eschwartz</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span> like it's not even about systemd, i'm using systemd right now, it's about people generally seeming to make more sensible decisions than my experience with debian as a maintainer which has left me <em>very</em> sour</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/whitequark/statuses/116643743528169196</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/whitequark/statuses/116643743528169196</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 00:37:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Wed, 27 May 2026 00:33:57 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/eschwartz%40fosstodon.org">@<span>eschwartz</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/whitequark%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> —omg-optimized</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://discuss.systems/users/steve/statuses/116643727762935975</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://discuss.systems/users/steve/statuses/116643727762935975</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[steve@discuss.systems]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 00:33:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Wed, 27 May 2026 00:31:51 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/eschwartz%40fosstodon.org">@<span>eschwartz</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/whitequark%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> its time to INSTALL GENTOO</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/ariadne/statuses/116643719505172982</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/ariadne/statuses/116643719505172982</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 00:31:51 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Tue, 26 May 2026 23:34:32 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/eschwartz%40fosstodon.org" rel="nofollow noopener">@<span>eschwartz</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> oh man maybe i should switch back to gentoo</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/whitequark/statuses/116643494137536335</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/whitequark/statuses/116643494137536335</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 23:34:32 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Tue, 26 May 2026 23:09:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/jima%40mspsocial.net">@<span>jima</span></a></span> Somehow fitting that I clicked through to the article and the banner ad at the top of the page is "Build your ideas with Gemini" <img src="https://board.circlewithadot.net/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f62b.png?v=28325c671da" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--tired_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="😫" alt="😫" /></p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tenforward.social/users/nivex/statuses/116643395937901408</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tenforward.social/users/nivex/statuses/116643395937901408</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nivex@tenforward.social]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 23:09:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Tue, 26 May 2026 19:59:12 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/whitequark%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span></p><p>Also relevant, Gentoo dropped eudev a year and a half ago on the grounds that it serves no purpose given systemd-utils can install standalone udev, and eudev was unmaintained and broken and did not in fact provide the library APIs which software compiled against, 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</div><p></p><p>Nonetheless, Gentoo still proudly supports non-systemd installs. <img src="https://board.circlewithadot.net/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=28325c671da" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":)" alt="🙂" /></p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/eschwartz/statuses/116642647392689562</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/eschwartz/statuses/116642647392689562</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[eschwartz@fosstodon.org]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 19:59:12 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Tue, 26 May 2026 19:46:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/whitequark%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/zyx%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>zyx</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span></p><p>eudev exists, at least today, primarily because there's a vocal subset of people who get extremely angry if a package name or file on disk includes the word "systemd" in it, and will not consent to running a udev implementation if any internal filename happens to be /usr/lib/systemd</p><p>These people literally configure their package manager to silently delete any files from ANY package matching the glob `*systemd*`. Prank tip: write a program including "systemdetails.py".</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/eschwartz/statuses/116642596233808127</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/eschwartz/statuses/116642596233808127</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[eschwartz@fosstodon.org]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 19:46:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Tue, 26 May 2026 17:49:07 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/hexaheximal%40mstdn.social" aria-label="Profile: hexaheximal@mstdn.social">@<bdi>hexaheximal@mstdn.social</bdi></a> @ariadne@treehouse.systems <a href="https://lobste.rs/domains/linuxjournal.com" rel="nofollow ugc">banned by lobste.rs 9 months ago</a> so not even a recent thing</p>
]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://donotsta.re/objects/5c3f474a-6d0e-403a-951e-c6b08e80f98b</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://donotsta.re/objects/5c3f474a-6d0e-403a-951e-c6b08e80f98b</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pj@donotsta.re]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 17:49:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Tue, 26 May 2026 17:47:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<span><a href="/user/neal%40social.gompa.me" rel="ugc">@<span>neal</span></a></span> <span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems" rel="ugc">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> It is not the first time that person has written AI slop. In fact this has been going for at least 2 years.]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://berkeley.edu.pl/objects/c8233d37-28e3-49c9-abcd-2d231c15e71a</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://berkeley.edu.pl/objects/c8233d37-28e3-49c9-abcd-2d231c15e71a</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fun@berkeley.edu.pl]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 17:47:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Tue, 26 May 2026 17:39:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/ariadne%40social.treehouse.systems" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> Yes, I'm aware of it and tried to use it, but not everything is working. In my case mounting LUKS-encrypted USB drive from Thunar sidebar was not working, and I have almost all my USB drives encrypted. I also remember some quirks with my graphic tablet (Wacom Bamboo) but I'm not sure if those were eudev fault.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://aelspire.info/users/aelspire/statuses/01KSJNY3XQBC65916VD6MQMK0X</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://aelspire.info/users/aelspire/statuses/01KSJNY3XQBC65916VD6MQMK0X</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[aelspire@aelspire.info]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 17:39:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a &#x27;systemd compatibility layer&#x27;. on Tue, 26 May 2026 17:35:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><a href="/user/aelspire%40aelspire.info">@<span>aelspire</span></a></span> Alpine already uses a udev implementation, eudev which is basically compatible with libudev.</p>]]></description><link>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/ariadne/statuses/116642080649542294</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/ariadne/statuses/116642080649542294</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 17:35:04 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>