to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a 'systemd compatibility layer'.
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@ariadne you can use systemd-udevd separately?
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to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a 'systemd compatibility layer'.
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/alpine-linux-experiments-systemd-compatibility-while-keeping-its-lightweight-identity is literally AI slop
@ariadne it's annoying to see stuff like this which suggests you can't use alpine on a desktop system -
@ariadne Why are people freaking out about this? It doesn't matter. The sloppy article aside, nothing about this is new as far as I knew...
@neal because the article is disinformation
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@ariadne I guess linuxjournal.com is all slop all the time now. A few days ago there was a similar [1] sloppy clickbait article about Debian.
Dunno who "George Whittaker" is, but if they are real person they should be ashamed of impersonating a journalist.
@bremner debian is using AI huh? yeah, i'm sure debbugs is really super friendly to AI tooling, right?
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@ariadne I guess linuxjournal.com is all slop all the time now. A few days ago there was a similar [1] sloppy clickbait article about Debian.
Dunno who "George Whittaker" is, but if they are real person they should be ashamed of impersonating a journalist.
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@neal because the article is disinformation
@ariadne Sigh...
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@ariadne Sigh...
@neal like linuxjournal.com right now, last two articles are totally AI slop disinformation
one about alpine and one about debian
i'm sure "george" will do fedora in time
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@neal like linuxjournal.com right now, last two articles are totally AI slop disinformation
one about alpine and one about debian
i'm sure "george" will do fedora in time
@ariadne Yeah, it's probably going to happen with something particularly dumb too. I can already see it coming...
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@bremner debian is using AI huh? yeah, i'm sure debbugs is really super friendly to AI tooling, right?
@ariadne I dunno, all I get out of our admin team is anatomically unlikely suggestions for scraper operators.
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to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a 'systemd compatibility layer'.
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/alpine-linux-experiments-systemd-compatibility-while-keeping-its-lightweight-identity is literally AI slop
@ariadne Is it safe to assume that shims for systemd APIs needed by things like GNOME aren’t a “systemd compatibility layer” for this purpose?
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@ariadne Is it safe to assume that shims for systemd APIs needed by things like GNOME aren’t a “systemd compatibility layer” for this purpose?
@alwayscurious i do not know *what* the article means by 'systemd compatibility layer', but it describes libsystemd coming to alpine which has not happened
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why does alpine ship the systemd unit files? so that downstream derivatives using systemd can use them.
simple as that.
also, it is funny that the article talks about proprietary software not working on alpine
in general, this is not a concern in the alpine community, and we do support flatpak
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@ariadne it's annoying to see stuff like this which suggests you can't use alpine on a desktop system
@weirdtreething
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Yeah, it is really unfortunate as Alpine is what finally convinced me Linux was viable as a personal computing OS after two decades of distrohopping, multibooting, and virtualizing Linux.@Brett_E_Carlock @weirdtreething indeed, maybe some of us have different priorities than the typical GNU/Linux user/developer
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to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a 'systemd compatibility layer'.
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/alpine-linux-experiments-systemd-compatibility-while-keeping-its-lightweight-identity is literally AI slop
the moment i opened the page it slapped gemini widget on my face <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://outerheaven.club/emoji/neofox/neofox_baa_256.png" title=":neofox_baa:" />
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to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a 'systemd compatibility layer'.
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/alpine-linux-experiments-systemd-compatibility-while-keeping-its-lightweight-identity is literally AI slop
@ariadne wow, that was painful to read. Literally.
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to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a 'systemd compatibility layer'.
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/alpine-linux-experiments-systemd-compatibility-while-keeping-its-lightweight-identity is literally AI slop
@ariadne 12 bullet lists in an article ? I love them as much as the next person, but even I know not to abuse them. No serious editor would have let this pass, seriously this is slop without even as much as a review pass.
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to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a 'systemd compatibility layer'.
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/alpine-linux-experiments-systemd-compatibility-while-keeping-its-lightweight-identity is literally AI slop
@ariadne TBH its hard to tell the difference between the slop excreted by Lunduke and that from an LLM these days they seem to have been converging over the years
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to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a 'systemd compatibility layer'.
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/alpine-linux-experiments-systemd-compatibility-while-keeping-its-lightweight-identity is literally AI slop
What a shame to have one's name in a masthead of a slop publication machine
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/masthead