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Ok, #selfhosting #diy nerds, it's question time.

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  • dgerdesmann@mastodon.socialD dgerdesmann@mastodon.social

    @bluewinds solid combo, should work. If you haven't already, make sure your ISP does not put you behind a CGNAT, otherwise any self-hosting won't work (even with dynamic DNS). I have this problem and wondered for hours why my setup did not work. In this case, you would need to rent a small VPS and use something like Pangolin to wire your traffic through. Good luck, and tell us how it went!

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    @dgerdesmann Hm; I'm on xfinity in Seattle.
    Thanks for the thought, did not occur to me and well worth checking!

    It looks like I might be fine; my router's admin panel ("Public IP" and "IP address") both match, and agree with what a public lookup ("what's my IP" web search) shows. I think that's the correct test here?

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    • bluewinds@tech.lgbtB bluewinds@tech.lgbt

      @dgerdesmann Hm; I'm on xfinity in Seattle.
      Thanks for the thought, did not occur to me and well worth checking!

      It looks like I might be fine; my router's admin panel ("Public IP" and "IP address") both match, and agree with what a public lookup ("what's my IP" web search) shows. I think that's the correct test here?

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      @bluewinds Nice, then you're likely good to go

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      • bluewinds@tech.lgbtB bluewinds@tech.lgbt

        Ok, #selfhosting #diy nerds, it's question time. I'm planning to host a personal site off of an old laptop I have laying around, on my residential internet connection.

        I already have a domain name, but since I'm on residential internet, my IP changes ~1/week, so I'll need dynamic DNS. I've never done this before.

        I'm thinking https://www.duckdns.org/ + https://ddclient.net/ to map my domain name -> host.

        Planning on running this as close to bare-metal as I can (without docker or VM, just straight on the host).

        Anyone who's done this and knows more than me have advice or alternatives? Anything else I should be aware of?

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        @bluewinds you can also reverse proxy it thru a cheap VPS (or cloudflare, or maybe the likes of tailscale / zerotier et al) if it turns out that any number of potential issues with hosting a site for direct inbound connections on a residential connection turn out to be true.

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        • bluewinds@tech.lgbtB bluewinds@tech.lgbt

          Ok, #selfhosting #diy nerds, it's question time. I'm planning to host a personal site off of an old laptop I have laying around, on my residential internet connection.

          I already have a domain name, but since I'm on residential internet, my IP changes ~1/week, so I'll need dynamic DNS. I've never done this before.

          I'm thinking https://www.duckdns.org/ + https://ddclient.net/ to map my domain name -> host.

          Planning on running this as close to bare-metal as I can (without docker or VM, just straight on the host).

          Anyone who's done this and knows more than me have advice or alternatives? Anything else I should be aware of?

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          @bluewinds check whether you have a real IP address or you’re behind CGNAT where your ISP shares one IP between multiple customers. If you are this won’t work, otherwise sounds reasonable to me.

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          • jon@activitypub.blankpad.netJ jon@activitypub.blankpad.net

            @bluewinds check whether you have a real IP address or you’re behind CGNAT where your ISP shares one IP between multiple customers. If you are this won’t work, otherwise sounds reasonable to me.

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            @bluewinds CGNAT can be worked around but you’ll probably need another machine somewhere that can forward traffic back to you. That could be a £2/month VM, it literally just needs an IP and the ability for you to connect to it from home.

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            • bluewinds@tech.lgbtB bluewinds@tech.lgbt

              Ok, #selfhosting #diy nerds, it's question time. I'm planning to host a personal site off of an old laptop I have laying around, on my residential internet connection.

              I already have a domain name, but since I'm on residential internet, my IP changes ~1/week, so I'll need dynamic DNS. I've never done this before.

              I'm thinking https://www.duckdns.org/ + https://ddclient.net/ to map my domain name -> host.

              Planning on running this as close to bare-metal as I can (without docker or VM, just straight on the host).

              Anyone who's done this and knows more than me have advice or alternatives? Anything else I should be aware of?

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              @bluewinds Depending on your plans, I'd suggest #Tailscale. Seamless sharing for personal devices and controlled sharing for friends, family or the public.

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              • jon@activitypub.blankpad.netJ jon@activitypub.blankpad.net

                @bluewinds CGNAT can be worked around but you’ll probably need another machine somewhere that can forward traffic back to you. That could be a £2/month VM, it literally just needs an IP and the ability for you to connect to it from home.

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                @jon It looks like I'm ok in that regard; my router's admin panel ("Public IP" and "IP address") both match, and agree with what a public lookup ("what's my IP" web search) shows. That means no CGNAT, right?

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                • bluewinds@tech.lgbtB bluewinds@tech.lgbt

                  Ok, #selfhosting #diy nerds, it's question time. I'm planning to host a personal site off of an old laptop I have laying around, on my residential internet connection.

                  I already have a domain name, but since I'm on residential internet, my IP changes ~1/week, so I'll need dynamic DNS. I've never done this before.

                  I'm thinking https://www.duckdns.org/ + https://ddclient.net/ to map my domain name -> host.

                  Planning on running this as close to bare-metal as I can (without docker or VM, just straight on the host).

                  Anyone who's done this and knows more than me have advice or alternatives? Anything else I should be aware of?

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                  @bluewinds

                  You could have a look to #yunohost project.
                  It offers one domain name and takes care of ip changes, this is part of many simple features like deploying many kind of web applucations in a breath.
                  A good way to start before digging in dedicated dynamic dns or vpn alternatives at cost.
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                  • artlog@agora.l0g.euA artlog@agora.l0g.eu
                    @bluewinds

                    You could have a look to #yunohost project.
                    It offers one domain name and takes care of ip changes, this is part of many simple features like deploying many kind of web applucations in a breath.
                    A good way to start before digging in dedicated dynamic dns or vpn alternatives at cost.
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                    @bluewinds

                    https://doc.yunohost.org/en/admin/tutorials/domains/dns_dynamicip/

                    Can give interesting hints.
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                    • artlog@agora.l0g.euA artlog@agora.l0g.eu
                      @bluewinds

                      https://doc.yunohost.org/en/admin/tutorials/domains/dns_dynamicip/

                      Can give interesting hints.
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                      @artlog Oh interesting, I had not heard of yunohost; that might be perfect, I'll look at it a bit more. Thanks!

                      That tutorial definitely suggests I'm thinking about it right, it's laying out exactly the same steps I had in mind (even mentions duckDNS and ddclient). 😁

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                      • bluewinds@tech.lgbtB bluewinds@tech.lgbt

                        Ok, #selfhosting #diy nerds, it's question time. I'm planning to host a personal site off of an old laptop I have laying around, on my residential internet connection.

                        I already have a domain name, but since I'm on residential internet, my IP changes ~1/week, so I'll need dynamic DNS. I've never done this before.

                        I'm thinking https://www.duckdns.org/ + https://ddclient.net/ to map my domain name -> host.

                        Planning on running this as close to bare-metal as I can (without docker or VM, just straight on the host).

                        Anyone who's done this and knows more than me have advice or alternatives? Anything else I should be aware of?

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                        @bluewinds I’m curious, what’s the reasoning behind going full bare-metal? If you’re open to alternatives, I’ve found that using virtualization (like Proxmox) is a lifesaver for backups. If something breaks during an update, you can just roll back to a snapshot from five minutes prior, which saves a ton of stress.

                        One other thing to consider: instead of Dynamic DNS, you could look into using a cheap VPS as a gateway, it's how my self hosted site is set up. It keeps your home IP hidden and solves the changing IP issue entirely.
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                        • bluewinds@tech.lgbtB bluewinds@tech.lgbt

                          Ok, #selfhosting #diy nerds, it's question time. I'm planning to host a personal site off of an old laptop I have laying around, on my residential internet connection.

                          I already have a domain name, but since I'm on residential internet, my IP changes ~1/week, so I'll need dynamic DNS. I've never done this before.

                          I'm thinking https://www.duckdns.org/ + https://ddclient.net/ to map my domain name -> host.

                          Planning on running this as close to bare-metal as I can (without docker or VM, just straight on the host).

                          Anyone who's done this and knows more than me have advice or alternatives? Anything else I should be aware of?

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                          @bluewinds i would use my dns provider api and some simple python script that would be put in cron for every 5 minutes:
                          "check my ip, if it changed then call dns provider api and update it"

                          btw you have to remember to set as low TTL as possible for that

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