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  • bluewinds@tech.lgbtB bluewinds@tech.lgbt

    @dgerdesmann Hm; I'm on xfinity in Seattle.
    Thanks for the thought, did not occur to me and well worth checking!

    It looks like I might be fine; my router's admin panel ("Public IP" and "IP address") both match, and agree with what a public lookup ("what's my IP" web search) shows. I think that's the correct test here?

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    @bluewinds Nice, then you're likely good to go

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    • bluewinds@tech.lgbtB bluewinds@tech.lgbt

      Ok, #selfhosting #diy nerds, it's question time. I'm planning to host a personal site off of an old laptop I have laying around, on my residential internet connection.

      I already have a domain name, but since I'm on residential internet, my IP changes ~1/week, so I'll need dynamic DNS. I've never done this before.

      I'm thinking https://www.duckdns.org/ + https://ddclient.net/ to map my domain name -> host.

      Planning on running this as close to bare-metal as I can (without docker or VM, just straight on the host).

      Anyone who's done this and knows more than me have advice or alternatives? Anything else I should be aware of?

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      @bluewinds you can also reverse proxy it thru a cheap VPS (or cloudflare, or maybe the likes of tailscale / zerotier et al) if it turns out that any number of potential issues with hosting a site for direct inbound connections on a residential connection turn out to be true.

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      • bluewinds@tech.lgbtB bluewinds@tech.lgbt

        Ok, #selfhosting #diy nerds, it's question time. I'm planning to host a personal site off of an old laptop I have laying around, on my residential internet connection.

        I already have a domain name, but since I'm on residential internet, my IP changes ~1/week, so I'll need dynamic DNS. I've never done this before.

        I'm thinking https://www.duckdns.org/ + https://ddclient.net/ to map my domain name -> host.

        Planning on running this as close to bare-metal as I can (without docker or VM, just straight on the host).

        Anyone who's done this and knows more than me have advice or alternatives? Anything else I should be aware of?

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        @bluewinds check whether you have a real IP address or you’re behind CGNAT where your ISP shares one IP between multiple customers. If you are this won’t work, otherwise sounds reasonable to me.

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        • jon@activitypub.blankpad.netJ jon@activitypub.blankpad.net

          @bluewinds check whether you have a real IP address or you’re behind CGNAT where your ISP shares one IP between multiple customers. If you are this won’t work, otherwise sounds reasonable to me.

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          @bluewinds CGNAT can be worked around but you’ll probably need another machine somewhere that can forward traffic back to you. That could be a £2/month VM, it literally just needs an IP and the ability for you to connect to it from home.

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          • bluewinds@tech.lgbtB bluewinds@tech.lgbt

            Ok, #selfhosting #diy nerds, it's question time. I'm planning to host a personal site off of an old laptop I have laying around, on my residential internet connection.

            I already have a domain name, but since I'm on residential internet, my IP changes ~1/week, so I'll need dynamic DNS. I've never done this before.

            I'm thinking https://www.duckdns.org/ + https://ddclient.net/ to map my domain name -> host.

            Planning on running this as close to bare-metal as I can (without docker or VM, just straight on the host).

            Anyone who's done this and knows more than me have advice or alternatives? Anything else I should be aware of?

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            @bluewinds Depending on your plans, I'd suggest #Tailscale. Seamless sharing for personal devices and controlled sharing for friends, family or the public.

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            • jon@activitypub.blankpad.netJ jon@activitypub.blankpad.net

              @bluewinds CGNAT can be worked around but you’ll probably need another machine somewhere that can forward traffic back to you. That could be a £2/month VM, it literally just needs an IP and the ability for you to connect to it from home.

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              @jon It looks like I'm ok in that regard; my router's admin panel ("Public IP" and "IP address") both match, and agree with what a public lookup ("what's my IP" web search) shows. That means no CGNAT, right?

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              • bluewinds@tech.lgbtB bluewinds@tech.lgbt

                Ok, #selfhosting #diy nerds, it's question time. I'm planning to host a personal site off of an old laptop I have laying around, on my residential internet connection.

                I already have a domain name, but since I'm on residential internet, my IP changes ~1/week, so I'll need dynamic DNS. I've never done this before.

                I'm thinking https://www.duckdns.org/ + https://ddclient.net/ to map my domain name -> host.

                Planning on running this as close to bare-metal as I can (without docker or VM, just straight on the host).

                Anyone who's done this and knows more than me have advice or alternatives? Anything else I should be aware of?

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                @bluewinds

                You could have a look to #yunohost project.
                It offers one domain name and takes care of ip changes, this is part of many simple features like deploying many kind of web applucations in a breath.
                A good way to start before digging in dedicated dynamic dns or vpn alternatives at cost.
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                • artlog@agora.l0g.euA artlog@agora.l0g.eu
                  @bluewinds

                  You could have a look to #yunohost project.
                  It offers one domain name and takes care of ip changes, this is part of many simple features like deploying many kind of web applucations in a breath.
                  A good way to start before digging in dedicated dynamic dns or vpn alternatives at cost.
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                  @bluewinds

                  https://doc.yunohost.org/en/admin/tutorials/domains/dns_dynamicip/

                  Can give interesting hints.
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                  • artlog@agora.l0g.euA artlog@agora.l0g.eu
                    @bluewinds

                    https://doc.yunohost.org/en/admin/tutorials/domains/dns_dynamicip/

                    Can give interesting hints.
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                    @artlog Oh interesting, I had not heard of yunohost; that might be perfect, I'll look at it a bit more. Thanks!

                    That tutorial definitely suggests I'm thinking about it right, it's laying out exactly the same steps I had in mind (even mentions duckDNS and ddclient). 😁

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                    • bluewinds@tech.lgbtB bluewinds@tech.lgbt

                      Ok, #selfhosting #diy nerds, it's question time. I'm planning to host a personal site off of an old laptop I have laying around, on my residential internet connection.

                      I already have a domain name, but since I'm on residential internet, my IP changes ~1/week, so I'll need dynamic DNS. I've never done this before.

                      I'm thinking https://www.duckdns.org/ + https://ddclient.net/ to map my domain name -> host.

                      Planning on running this as close to bare-metal as I can (without docker or VM, just straight on the host).

                      Anyone who's done this and knows more than me have advice or alternatives? Anything else I should be aware of?

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                      @bluewinds I’m curious, what’s the reasoning behind going full bare-metal? If you’re open to alternatives, I’ve found that using virtualization (like Proxmox) is a lifesaver for backups. If something breaks during an update, you can just roll back to a snapshot from five minutes prior, which saves a ton of stress.

                      One other thing to consider: instead of Dynamic DNS, you could look into using a cheap VPS as a gateway, it's how my self hosted site is set up. It keeps your home IP hidden and solves the changing IP issue entirely.
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                      • bluewinds@tech.lgbtB bluewinds@tech.lgbt

                        Ok, #selfhosting #diy nerds, it's question time. I'm planning to host a personal site off of an old laptop I have laying around, on my residential internet connection.

                        I already have a domain name, but since I'm on residential internet, my IP changes ~1/week, so I'll need dynamic DNS. I've never done this before.

                        I'm thinking https://www.duckdns.org/ + https://ddclient.net/ to map my domain name -> host.

                        Planning on running this as close to bare-metal as I can (without docker or VM, just straight on the host).

                        Anyone who's done this and knows more than me have advice or alternatives? Anything else I should be aware of?

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                        @bluewinds i would use my dns provider api and some simple python script that would be put in cron for every 5 minutes:
                        "check my ip, if it changed then call dns provider api and update it"

                        btw you have to remember to set as low TTL as possible for that

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