You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?
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@vnkr @greenpeace And so the common people can really sway the regulatory side, yeah, totally true. so yeah, this comment is very useful in this platform.
I’d rather see them pressuring governments. I’m all for that.
@TomDB @vnkr @greenpeace You know I haven’t used petrol since 2019 and since last November my gas was disconnected because I don’t use it anymore. Now profiting nicely.
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@greenpeace You still have no solution for when it's dark. The time when we all are using (hopefully) electricity to heat our houses. They won't work then. I hope we all already know that not using fossil fuels is an ecological advantage but that was never my point. My point was about the practicality of providing the global population with the necessary energy. Ecological advantage has no meaning when you can't produce electricity when it's dark.
@TomDB @greenpeace I pay dynamic prices for electricity. The night is usually cheap because of the wind parks. Middle of the day is cheap due to abundant solar. Only left to solve is the morning and evening peak hours. I have a small battery that carries me across. It’s really not as bad as you think.
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@Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace No, governments need to do that. People are not making up the rules to sway those policies when powerful lobbyist are at work behind the scenes. It’s about policy.
@TomDB @Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace Actually its the people unfortunately. The lobbyists that turn governments heads are paid with the money coming from consumers. If you don't buy from them they wont get paid and then they stop. Better still, buy renewables and let those companies have money for their lobbying.
No amount of government interventions have stopped narcotics trade. If there is demand supply will fight whatever obstacles even when things are clearly dangerous.
Just stop using.
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@greenpeace What if the components for solar and wind farms are on ships going through there?
@RavenLuni
That's certainly unpleasant, but it means you cannot build new ones, you can still use whatever you already have.Oil gets stuck, economy completely shuts down in a month. Panel get stuck - you have got 10 years to sort it out
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@greenpeace I’m sorry solar pannels travel from China to Europe through Suez, and the mining needed to produce them should worry your organization.
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@greenpeace that one got stuck in Suez, have you forgotten? also it can get stuck in Malacca.
just in case you missed what happens around Taiwanso naive
@mrbrown
Suez caused our panels to stop working? -
@mrbrown
Suez caused our panels to stop working?@exyi no that's just you twisting the argument. I think this makes you feel smart.
Ideology is always easier. Real life is harder. You're not different from Trump MAGA, just on the opposite side.
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@exyi no that's just you twisting the argument. I think this makes you feel smart.
Ideology is always easier. Real life is harder. You're not different from Trump MAGA, just on the opposite side.
Have fun. go to study@mrbrown
What am I twisting and what do you want me to study?Do the panels/windmills stop working or not? Combustion engines certainly don't work when you suddenly cannot import enough oil.
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@mrbrown
What am I twisting and what do you want me to study?Do the panels/windmills stop working or not? Combustion engines certainly don't work when you suddenly cannot import enough oil.
@exyi you're so brilliant
show me more! 
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You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?
Solar and wind energy
@greenpeace A submarine?
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@greenpeace Pity the sun doesn’t shine at night and battery complexes aren’t yet build over there. We’re not yet at the right stage for this comment.
@TomDB
Every company can make the right decision and install that, same for individuals
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You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?
Solar and wind energy
@greenpeace I'm happy that I'm in Greece, where renewables covered 46.7% of electricity usage in 2025. We can still do better, though, especially in transportation where far too little is electrified.
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@TomDB
Every company can make the right decision and install that, same for individuals
@greenpeace@Rio @greenpeace no, only if the cost is right. Not everyone can afford it though.
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@Rio @greenpeace no, only if the cost is right. Not everyone can afford it though.
@TomDB
Not only the cost for the current year, a BESS can secure ~60 to 80% of the electricity need for 10 or 20 years.
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You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?
Solar and wind energy
@greenpeace
Well I hear the straight of Hormuz has mountains around it and those don't really let wind through
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@TomDB
Not only the cost for the current year, a BESS can secure ~60 to 80% of the electricity need for 10 or 20 years.
@greenpeace@Rio @greenpeace I am
Aware of that, it’s just that we need 100% and on a continuous level. ~60-80% is not going to cut it. We need to build better and cooperate better. Ow, and get rid of lobbyists. -
You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?
Solar and wind energy
@greenpeace True. It's always mediocre men that try to "correct" this type of post, isn't it?
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@mrbrown
Suez caused our panels to stop working?
The trouble with placing windmills in the Suez is not only do the blades get stuck in the mud banks, but even when they work, they tend to chop the superstructures off of passing ships. -
@greenpeace Pity the sun doesn’t shine at night and battery complexes aren’t yet build over there. We’re not yet at the right stage for this comment.
@TomDB does the wind also stop blowing at night?
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@TomDB does the wind also stop blowing at night?
@greenpeace@Tattie @greenpeace With the risk of you already knowing: if the wind blows too hard or too little the windmills are on the brake and don’t run. So between 2 and about 5-6 BFT is ideal. Outside those windspeeds/strengths windmillls are shut off. That also limits partly production at night when wind may fall off or be very minimal.
