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You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

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  • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

    @Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace No, governments need to do that. People are not making up the rules to sway those policies when powerful lobbyist are at work behind the scenes. It’s about policy.

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    @TomDB @Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace Actually its the people unfortunately. The lobbyists that turn governments heads are paid with the money coming from consumers. If you don't buy from them they wont get paid and then they stop. Better still, buy renewables and let those companies have money for their lobbying.

    No amount of government interventions have stopped narcotics trade. If there is demand supply will fight whatever obstacles even when things are clearly dangerous.

    Just stop using.

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    • ravenluni@furry.engineerR ravenluni@furry.engineer

      @greenpeace What if the components for solar and wind farms are on ships going through there?

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      @RavenLuni
      That's certainly unpleasant, but it means you cannot build new ones, you can still use whatever you already have.

      Oil gets stuck, economy completely shuts down in a month. Panel get stuck - you have got 10 years to sort it out
      @greenpeace

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      • pomubieng@mastodon.socialP pomubieng@mastodon.social

        @greenpeace I’m sorry solar pannels travel from China to Europe through Suez, and the mining needed to produce them should worry your organization.

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        @pomubieng
        https://youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM
        @greenpeace

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        • mrbrown@mastodon.unoM mrbrown@mastodon.uno

          @greenpeace that one got stuck in Suez, have you forgotten? also it can get stuck in Malacca.
          just in case you missed what happens around Taiwan

          so naive 😉

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          @mrbrown
          Suez caused our panels to stop working?

          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM
          @greenpeace

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          • exyi@ioc.exchangeE exyi@ioc.exchange

            @mrbrown
            Suez caused our panels to stop working?

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM
            @greenpeace

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            @exyi no that's just you twisting the argument. I think this makes you feel smart.
            Ideology is always easier. Real life is harder. You're not different from Trump MAGA, just on the opposite side.
            Have fun. go to study😉

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            • mrbrown@mastodon.unoM mrbrown@mastodon.uno

              @exyi no that's just you twisting the argument. I think this makes you feel smart.
              Ideology is always easier. Real life is harder. You're not different from Trump MAGA, just on the opposite side.
              Have fun. go to study😉

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              @mrbrown
              What am I twisting and what do you want me to study?

              Do the panels/windmills stop working or not? Combustion engines certainly don't work when you suddenly cannot import enough oil.

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              • exyi@ioc.exchangeE exyi@ioc.exchange

                @mrbrown
                What am I twisting and what do you want me to study?

                Do the panels/windmills stop working or not? Combustion engines certainly don't work when you suddenly cannot import enough oil.

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                @exyi you're so brilliant👏 show me more! 😂

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                • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                  You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

                  Solar and wind energy

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                  @greenpeace A submarine?

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                  • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

                    @greenpeace Pity the sun doesn’t shine at night and battery complexes aren’t yet build over there. We’re not yet at the right stage for this comment.

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                    @TomDB
                    Every company can make the right decision and install that, same for individuals
                    @greenpeace

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                    • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                      You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

                      Solar and wind energy

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                      @greenpeace I'm happy that I'm in Greece, where renewables covered 46.7% of electricity usage in 2025. We can still do better, though, especially in transportation where far too little is electrified.

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                      • rio@mastodon.socialR rio@mastodon.social

                        @TomDB
                        Every company can make the right decision and install that, same for individuals
                        @greenpeace

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                        @Rio @greenpeace no, only if the cost is right. Not everyone can afford it though.

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                        • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

                          @Rio @greenpeace no, only if the cost is right. Not everyone can afford it though.

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                          @TomDB
                          Not only the cost for the current year, a BESS can secure ~60 to 80% of the electricity need for 10 or 20 years.
                          @greenpeace

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                          • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                            You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

                            Solar and wind energy

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                            @greenpeace
                            Well I hear the straight of Hormuz has mountains around it and those don't really let wind through 😂
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                            • rio@mastodon.socialR rio@mastodon.social

                              @TomDB
                              Not only the cost for the current year, a BESS can secure ~60 to 80% of the electricity need for 10 or 20 years.
                              @greenpeace

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                              @Rio @greenpeace I am
                              Aware of that, it’s just that we need 100% and on a continuous level. ~60-80% is not going to cut it. We need to build better and cooperate better. Ow, and get rid of lobbyists.

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                              • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                                You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

                                Solar and wind energy

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                                @greenpeace True. It's always mediocre men that try to "correct" this type of post, isn't it?

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                                • exyi@ioc.exchangeE exyi@ioc.exchange

                                  @mrbrown
                                  Suez caused our panels to stop working?

                                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM
                                  @greenpeace

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                                  @exyi @mrbrown @greenpeace

                                  😆 The trouble with placing windmills in the Suez is not only do the blades get stuck in the mud banks, but even when they work, they tend to chop the superstructures off of passing ships.

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                                  • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

                                    @greenpeace Pity the sun doesn’t shine at night and battery complexes aren’t yet build over there. We’re not yet at the right stage for this comment.

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                                    @TomDB does the wind also stop blowing at night?
                                    @greenpeace

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                                    • tattie@eldritch.cafeT tattie@eldritch.cafe

                                      @TomDB does the wind also stop blowing at night?
                                      @greenpeace

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                                      @Tattie @greenpeace With the risk of you already knowing: if the wind blows too hard or too little the windmills are on the brake and don’t run. So between 2 and about 5-6 BFT is ideal. Outside those windspeeds/strengths windmillls are shut off. That also limits partly production at night when wind may fall off or be very minimal.

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                                      • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

                                        @Tattie @greenpeace With the risk of you already knowing: if the wind blows too hard or too little the windmills are on the brake and don’t run. So between 2 and about 5-6 BFT is ideal. Outside those windspeeds/strengths windmillls are shut off. That also limits partly production at night when wind may fall off or be very minimal.

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                                        @TomDB wow! You're really opening my eyes as to how limited renewable energy is! And I remember reading all these wonderful articles about how well renewables were doing in, Denmark I think? Not I guess realistically you don't expect them to get past a couple of percent of their electricity generated that way, huh?

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                                        • tattie@eldritch.cafeT tattie@eldritch.cafe

                                          @TomDB wow! You're really opening my eyes as to how limited renewable energy is! And I remember reading all these wonderful articles about how well renewables were doing in, Denmark I think? Not I guess realistically you don't expect them to get past a couple of percent of their electricity generated that way, huh?

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                                          @Tattie More than half of Danish energy is from fossil fuel (oil mainly; data from 2023). I still stand by my first statement that we're not there yet to instantly switch from fossil to wind/sun/battery. But hey, you could have looked up that data yourself in stead of giving snarky sarcastic remarks.

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