@keepandroidopen — this is the final push for our freedom of choice.
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@GrapheneOS @jfr_1980 @Pizzasquidwithatophat @keepandroidopen and Motorola phones are not from China?
@richarddebruin They're being honest about it, unlike Fairphone.
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@jfr_1980 @lineageos @keepandroidopen Pixels are currently the only available devices providing reasonable security combined with proper alternate OS support. That's why those are the only devices we currently support. There are companies in Europe such as NitroKey selling phones with them which are not partnered with us and we aren't involved in it but it's permitted by the open source licensing. Our OEM partnership is a much different thing since the devices are being improved to support it.
@GrapheneOS @lineageos @keepandroidopen what about #punkt. with #AphyOS ? Apparently outdated tech and weak OS but still made in europe and provided with @threemaapp @protonprivacy @european_alternatives ? Just need some marketing to reach mainstream adoption
Punkt. MC03 Premium Secure Smartphone + 1 year of AphyOS Subscription (Europe Version)
Experience the Punkt smartphone MC03: A minimalist, privacy‑first device designed in Europe with Vault, Wild Web and 1‑year AphyOS subscription.
punkt.ch (www.punkt.ch)
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@richarddebruin @jfr_1980 @GrapheneOS @lineageos @murena @sailfishosnews @keepandroidopen XD they can't stop being weird
@helloclippy "they are weird" is all you manage to say after your BS was debunked? You're just embarrassing yourself at this point
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@helloclippy "they are weird" is all you manage to say after your BS was debunked? You're just embarrassing yourself at this point
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@helloclippy @jfr_1980 @GrapheneOS @lineageos @murena @sailfishosnews @keepandroidopen and guess... they give me a block
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@helloclippy "they are weird" is all you manage to say after your BS was debunked? You're just embarrassing yourself at this point
@Andromxda You can see my reply to @hornedfiend, where I explain my thoughts: https://techhub.social/@helloclippy/116150541854893630
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@helloclippy @jfr_1980 @GrapheneOS @lineageos @murena @sailfishosnews @keepandroidopen and guess... they give me a block
.@richarddebruin @jfr_1980 @GrapheneOS @lineageos @murena @sailfishosnews @keepandroidopen They blocked me too... really sad, because I really like Graphene OS
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@richarddebruin They're being honest about it, unlike Fairphone.
@Andromxda Fairphone not honest? Read their impact report (chapter 7.8.1, the rest is also nice to read) https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Fairphone-Impact_Report-27-May.pdf
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@jfr_1980 @lineageos @keepandroidopen Pixels are currently the only available devices providing reasonable security combined with proper alternate OS support. That's why those are the only devices we currently support. There are companies in Europe such as NitroKey selling phones with them which are not partnered with us and we aren't involved in it but it's permitted by the open source licensing. Our OEM partnership is a much different thing since the devices are being improved to support it.
@GrapheneOS Could you elaborate on this part or provide a link if it is already described in more detail somewhere?
"the only available devices providing reasonable security combined with proper alternate OS support"
What do Pixels have that any other mainstream device with LineageOS support does not?
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@GrapheneOS Could you elaborate on this part or provide a link if it is already described in more detail somewhere?
"the only available devices providing reasonable security combined with proper alternate OS support"
What do Pixels have that any other mainstream device with LineageOS support does not?
@Paralhax LineageOS doesn't fully keep up with Android updates and privacy/security patches. It also doesn't fully keep the Android privacy/security model fully intact. It's not a privacy or security focused project in the same way. It's a downgrade from AOSP rather than a major upgrade. It's not rolling them back nearly as much as something like /e/ but it's still doing it. LineageOS lacks real security requirements for devices and on most don't have regular kernel, driver or firmware updates.
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@Paralhax LineageOS doesn't fully keep up with Android updates and privacy/security patches. It also doesn't fully keep the Android privacy/security model fully intact. It's not a privacy or security focused project in the same way. It's a downgrade from AOSP rather than a major upgrade. It's not rolling them back nearly as much as something like /e/ but it's still doing it. LineageOS lacks real security requirements for devices and on most don't have regular kernel, driver or firmware updates.
@Paralhax Nearly all the devices they support lack proper updates. There isn't a single device where they have updates even comparable to lagging behind the stock OS by a week. On Pixels, they end up way behind on kernel, driver and firmware updates after major OS updates since it takes months for them to port.
Most devices they support have no secure element meaning disk encryption doesn't truly work for the vast majority not using a strong passphrase with no extra convenience for it.
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@Paralhax Nearly all the devices they support lack proper updates. There isn't a single device where they have updates even comparable to lagging behind the stock OS by a week. On Pixels, they end up way behind on kernel, driver and firmware updates after major OS updates since it takes months for them to port.
Most devices they support have no secure element meaning disk encryption doesn't truly work for the vast majority not using a strong passphrase with no extra convenience for it.
@Paralhax They don't use hardware memory tagging, verified boot, etc. so of course it doesn't matter to them if devices support it.
The list of hardware requirements for GrapheneOS are at https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices. Our OEM partner needs to spend around a year getting this implemented. Their current devices don't meet the requirements although they already started making major improvements towards it. Other non-Pixel devices similarly don't meet these requirements. It's not one, it's multiple.
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@jfr_1980 @GrapheneOS @lineageos @murena @sailfishosnews @keepandroidopen
Anddd none of these support my samsung models...
Whatever I'll just debloat the shit out of them@Pizzasquidwithatophat @GrapheneOS @lineageos @murena @sailfishosnews @keepandroidopen i have just installed @murena @e_mydata on my #samsunggalaxy #tab s5e through #heimdall last night, works even better than on my fairphone
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@helloclippy @jfr_1980 @keepandroidopen It's not surprising to see someone with an online identity based around content from a prominent Kiwi Farmer is making disingenous attacks on our project and team. We're going to continue countering the dishonest claims about us with factual information. You're trying and failing to misdirect away from it.
From your bio:
> I'm part of the LGBTQ+ community
Meanwhile, you support Kiwi Farmers and their attacks on us:
@GrapheneOS @helloclippy @jfr_1980 @keepandroidopen Wait, what is wrong with LGBTQ+????
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@GrapheneOS @helloclippy @jfr_1980 @keepandroidopen Wait, what is wrong with LGBTQ+????
I think what they're saying is that this person who has " I'm part of the LGBTQ+ community" is also supportive of Kiwi Farms, which has been known to harass lgbtq+ individuals, among others.
CC: @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social @helloclippy@techhub.social @jfr_1980@mastodon.social @keepandroidopen@techhub.social
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I think what they're saying is that this person who has " I'm part of the LGBTQ+ community" is also supportive of Kiwi Farms, which has been known to harass lgbtq+ individuals, among others.
CC: @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social @helloclippy@techhub.social @jfr_1980@mastodon.social @keepandroidopen@techhub.social@sam @rebel1725 @GrapheneOS @jfr_1980 @keepandroidopen Yes, it was what Graphene meant to. But I don't support the Kiwi Farmers:
https://techhub.social/@helloclippy/116150668627041678
