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  • owen@mastodon.transneptune.netO owen@mastodon.transneptune.net

    @mhoye How are the various BSDs doing these days?

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    @owen @mhoye the three main BSD projects have all rejected LLM for code

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    • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

      What options do I have, if I want an operating system and software that won't take a dependency on nondeterministic, proprietary generators?

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      @mhoye plan9

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        @mhoye plan9

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        @phred I don't think GolangOS runs on my ARM64 hardware, unfortunately.

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        • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

          Devuan it is then.

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          @mhoye Finally, all those antisystemd haters from Phoronix can now say "TOLD YA"

          I've been drivin' Void on laptops for a while now and considering migrating my main Debian PC to it (and upgrading from ext4 to zfs too)

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          • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

            What options do I have, if I want an operating system and software that won't take a dependency on nondeterministic, proprietary generators?

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            @mhoye Gentoo or Alpine with OpenRC. It's possible to use it with Arch too, but you're on your own

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            • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

              Devuan it is then.

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              @mhoye not surprising from a microslop developer

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              • navi@social.vlhl.devN navi@social.vlhl.dev
                @c0dec0dec0de @mhoye

                yes, both @ska and i have personal policies for not accepting llm contributions (i will get around to adding a contributing.md to openrc stating that, soon™...)
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                @navi @mhoye @c0dec0dec0de absolutely, and I think I will shamelessly plagiarize the Redox OS Contributing document for my own software.

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                • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                  @phred I don't think GolangOS runs on my ARM64 hardware, unfortunately.

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                  @mhoye yeah, looks like someone started an arm64 toolchain for plan9 and then moved on. My answer was tongue in cheek as, well, one would need to be *very excited* to develop their own software to get some kind of modern experience on plan9, which I’m sure some diehards will say is “the whole point”

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                  • gabrielesvelto@mas.toG gabrielesvelto@mas.to

                    @mhoye Gentoo or Alpine with OpenRC. It's possible to use it with Arch too, but you're on your own

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                    @gabrielesvelto @mhoye Postmarket OS and Gentoo have decent policies against slop:

                    * https://docs.postmarketos.org/policies-and-processes/development/ai-policy.html
                    * https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/AI_policy

                    EDIT: Here is a statement from OpenRC that they will not accept slop: https://social.vlhl.dev/notice/B411aV3FER9OzhAx3Q

                    Haven't seen a statement from Alpine yet.

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                    • skyfaller@jawns.clubS skyfaller@jawns.club

                      @gabrielesvelto @mhoye Postmarket OS and Gentoo have decent policies against slop:

                      * https://docs.postmarketos.org/policies-and-processes/development/ai-policy.html
                      * https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/AI_policy

                      EDIT: Here is a statement from OpenRC that they will not accept slop: https://social.vlhl.dev/notice/B411aV3FER9OzhAx3Q

                      Haven't seen a statement from Alpine yet.

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                      @skyfaller @mhoye OpenRC is maintained by the Gentoo team and it's the default init system in Alpine

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                      • gabrielesvelto@mas.toG gabrielesvelto@mas.to

                        @mhoye Gentoo or Alpine with OpenRC. It's possible to use it with Arch too, but you're on your own

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                        @gabrielesvelto It's a position I'm familiar with, at least.

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                        • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                          What options do I have, if I want an operating system and software that won't take a dependency on nondeterministic, proprietary generators?

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                          @mhoye

                          Doesn't Debian still make systemd optional? Or did that change?

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                          • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                            What options do I have, if I want an operating system and software that won't take a dependency on nondeterministic, proprietary generators?

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                            @mhoye alpine and related OSs and the BSDs, basically.

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                            • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                              What options do I have, if I want an operating system and software that won't take a dependency on nondeterministic, proprietary generators?

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                              @mhoye@cosocial.ca OpenBSD?
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