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  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

    What options do I have, if I want an operating system and software that won't take a dependency on nondeterministic, proprietary generators?

    phred@weirder.earthP This user is from outside of this forum
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    @mhoye plan9

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      @mhoye plan9

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      @phred I don't think GolangOS runs on my ARM64 hardware, unfortunately.

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      • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

        Devuan it is then.

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        @mhoye Finally, all those antisystemd haters from Phoronix can now say "TOLD YA"

        I've been drivin' Void on laptops for a while now and considering migrating my main Debian PC to it (and upgrading from ext4 to zfs too)

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        • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

          What options do I have, if I want an operating system and software that won't take a dependency on nondeterministic, proprietary generators?

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          @mhoye Gentoo or Alpine with OpenRC. It's possible to use it with Arch too, but you're on your own

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          • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

            Devuan it is then.

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            @mhoye not surprising from a microslop developer

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            • navi@social.vlhl.devN navi@social.vlhl.dev
              @c0dec0dec0de @mhoye

              yes, both @ska and i have personal policies for not accepting llm contributions (i will get around to adding a contributing.md to openrc stating that, soon™...)
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              @navi @mhoye @c0dec0dec0de absolutely, and I think I will shamelessly plagiarize the Redox OS Contributing document for my own software.

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              • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                @phred I don't think GolangOS runs on my ARM64 hardware, unfortunately.

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                @mhoye yeah, looks like someone started an arm64 toolchain for plan9 and then moved on. My answer was tongue in cheek as, well, one would need to be *very excited* to develop their own software to get some kind of modern experience on plan9, which I’m sure some diehards will say is “the whole point”

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                • gabrielesvelto@mas.toG gabrielesvelto@mas.to

                  @mhoye Gentoo or Alpine with OpenRC. It's possible to use it with Arch too, but you're on your own

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                  @gabrielesvelto @mhoye Postmarket OS and Gentoo have decent policies against slop:

                  * https://docs.postmarketos.org/policies-and-processes/development/ai-policy.html
                  * https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/AI_policy

                  EDIT: Here is a statement from OpenRC that they will not accept slop: https://social.vlhl.dev/notice/B411aV3FER9OzhAx3Q

                  Haven't seen a statement from Alpine yet.

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                  • skyfaller@jawns.clubS skyfaller@jawns.club

                    @gabrielesvelto @mhoye Postmarket OS and Gentoo have decent policies against slop:

                    * https://docs.postmarketos.org/policies-and-processes/development/ai-policy.html
                    * https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/AI_policy

                    EDIT: Here is a statement from OpenRC that they will not accept slop: https://social.vlhl.dev/notice/B411aV3FER9OzhAx3Q

                    Haven't seen a statement from Alpine yet.

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                    @skyfaller @mhoye OpenRC is maintained by the Gentoo team and it's the default init system in Alpine

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                    • gabrielesvelto@mas.toG gabrielesvelto@mas.to

                      @mhoye Gentoo or Alpine with OpenRC. It's possible to use it with Arch too, but you're on your own

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                      @gabrielesvelto It's a position I'm familiar with, at least.

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                      • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                        What options do I have, if I want an operating system and software that won't take a dependency on nondeterministic, proprietary generators?

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                        @mhoye

                        Doesn't Debian still make systemd optional? Or did that change?

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                        • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                          What options do I have, if I want an operating system and software that won't take a dependency on nondeterministic, proprietary generators?

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                          @mhoye alpine and related OSs and the BSDs, basically.

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                          • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                            What options do I have, if I want an operating system and software that won't take a dependency on nondeterministic, proprietary generators?

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                            @mhoye@cosocial.ca OpenBSD?
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