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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    @VeeRat They're trying to make converts because it validates their own use of the tools, which they feel insecure about. It's a quasi-religious evangelical impulse.

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    #37

    @cstross @VeeRat The thing I have seen the most-of is Gen Z and Alpha basically pretending to use AI to make Gamm-pa Boomer Manager happy, but really just learning the ropes and making the connections with the C-Suite while also playing nice with all the Xennials who actually Do Shit.

    The result is when the Boomers FINALLY retire... the youngin's will probably be given the keys and will keep the Xennials who don't suck.

    Much like Intergenerational wealth advice of "Leave it to the grandkids"

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    • epilonious@toot.lgbtE epilonious@toot.lgbt

      @cstross @VeeRat The thing I have seen the most-of is Gen Z and Alpha basically pretending to use AI to make Gamm-pa Boomer Manager happy, but really just learning the ropes and making the connections with the C-Suite while also playing nice with all the Xennials who actually Do Shit.

      The result is when the Boomers FINALLY retire... the youngin's will probably be given the keys and will keep the Xennials who don't suck.

      Much like Intergenerational wealth advice of "Leave it to the grandkids"

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      #38

      @cstross @VeeRat

      Will the "Xennials who do suck" include a bunch of toadies who couldn't even get AI to do things for them, a LOT of middle management feeling like they are living in a Dilbert Strip... as well as the creepy nepotism hire who knows where the body(ies) are buried?

      Yeeep.

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      • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

        @VeeRat

        As everyone knows, the process is meaningless. Only the outputs have any value.

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        #39
        More accurately: only the outputs can be sold for money, the process is obviously a sink of effort and salaries
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        • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

          Sigh.

          New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

          Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

          New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

          Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

          New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

          Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

          clonedhuman@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #40

          RE: https://tldr.nettime.org/@tante/116217631691585046

          @VeeRat Yep. https://mastodon.social/@tante@tldr.nettime.org/116217631979979055

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          • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

            Sigh.

            New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

            Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

            New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

            Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

            New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

            Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

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            #41

            @VeeRat
            Sometimes I think of this story about the early bronze age, when bronze tools were traded along the then trade hubs. That archeologists found a site from people who didn't have their own bronze technology yet, who owned one bronze axe, and several wood replicas.

            I think of this story, and feel a bit relieved that at least, it's not just us living now.

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            • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

              Sigh.

              New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

              Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

              New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

              Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

              New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

              Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

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              #42

              @VeeRat But why do you need learning and remembering when you have AI? /s

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              • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                Sigh.

                New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

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                #43

                @VeeRat there's actual science to support the eye-hand coordination of writing that supports memory and learning. AI is going to melt people's brains into jelly if we don't stop it.

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                • n01100010@zeroes.caN n01100010@zeroes.ca

                  @VeeRat "AI zombies" is the best description I've heard in a while. It says it all.

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                  #44

                  @N01100010 @VeeRat slopotomized ai zombies.

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                  • petrillic@hachyderm.ioP petrillic@hachyderm.io

                    @VeeRat I had to explain to someone that the act of taking the notes is 99% if the value for me. I almost never actually go back and read them. For me also, paper is better than electronic.

                    But also zombies.

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                    #45

                    @petrillic @VeeRat I do look stuff up in my notes all the time so I do electronic, can't search physical notebooks for a phrase or whatever. But totally get the value of handwriting for memory.

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                    • yetzt@social.yetzt.meY yetzt@social.yetzt.me

                      @N01100010 @VeeRat slopotomized ai zombies.

                      clickhere@mastodon.ieC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #46

                      @yetzt Underrated toot.

                      @N01100010 @VeeRat

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                      • noodlemaz@mstdn.gamesN noodlemaz@mstdn.games

                        @petrillic @VeeRat I do look stuff up in my notes all the time so I do electronic, can't search physical notebooks for a phrase or whatever. But totally get the value of handwriting for memory.

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                        #47

                        @noodlemaz @VeeRat note taking is a super personal thing, because it's deeply linked into how our brains work

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                        • clonedhuman@mastodon.socialC clonedhuman@mastodon.social

                          RE: https://tldr.nettime.org/@tante/116217631691585046

                          @VeeRat Yep. https://mastodon.social/@tante@tldr.nettime.org/116217631979979055

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                          #48

                          @clonedhuman @VeeRat

                          Friend of mine whose ancestors survived the European Pograms has pointed out that education is the only thing they can't take away from you.

                          Seems like they're trying very hard to cover that base, too.

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                          • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                            Sigh.

                            New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                            Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                            New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                            Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                            New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                            Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

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                            #49

                            @VeeRat Wowwww, do I feel this, too! Sheesh. I don't want to turn my brain off!

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                            • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                              Sigh.

                              New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                              Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                              New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                              Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                              New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                              Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

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                              darkerknight@climatejustice.social
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                              #50

                              @VeeRat

                              AI Zombies - the body keeps on going causing mayhem while the brain died a long time before.

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                              • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                                Sigh.

                                New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                                Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                                New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                                Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                                New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                                Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

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                                #51

                                @VeeRat Join us... It's bliss 🧟‍♂️

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                                • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                                  Sigh.

                                  New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                                  Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                                  New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                                  Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                                  New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                                  Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

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                                  #52

                                  @VeeRat @david useful question, these days:

                                  Them: something something AI, you should try it!

                                  Us: what problem is this solving? (No thanks)

                                  #noAI

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                                  • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                                    Sigh.

                                    New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                                    Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                                    New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                                    Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                                    New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                                    Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #53

                                    @VeeRat Because $boss has usage targets and doesn't care why you do it by hand.

                                    I would really like to see what kinds of bullshit contracts these people signed with MSFT....

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                                    • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                                      Sigh.

                                      New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                                      Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                                      New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                                      Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                                      New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                                      Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

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                                      #54

                                      @VeeRat no learnings, just conclusions.

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                                      • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                                        Sigh.

                                        New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                                        Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                                        New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                                        Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                                        New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                                        Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

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                                        usajusticewatch@mastodon.social
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #55

                                        @VeeRat. The research supports your method: https://www.learningscientists

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                                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                          @VeeRat They're trying to make converts because it validates their own use of the tools, which they feel insecure about. It's a quasi-religious evangelical impulse.

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                                          #56

                                          @cstross @VeeRat Raises the old point that those who feel secure in themselves are happy to treat others as valid and complementary, while those who are insecure have to push everyone else to do as they do, and patronise them.

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