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  • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

    Sigh.

    New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

    Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

    New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

    Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

    New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

    Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

    tamarasellman@social.seattle.wa.usT This user is from outside of this forum
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    tamarasellman@social.seattle.wa.us
    wrote last edited by
    #43

    @VeeRat there's actual science to support the eye-hand coordination of writing that supports memory and learning. AI is going to melt people's brains into jelly if we don't stop it.

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    • n01100010@zeroes.caN n01100010@zeroes.ca

      @VeeRat "AI zombies" is the best description I've heard in a while. It says it all.

      yetzt@social.yetzt.meY This user is from outside of this forum
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      yetzt@social.yetzt.me
      wrote last edited by
      #44

      @N01100010 @VeeRat slopotomized ai zombies.

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      • petrillic@hachyderm.ioP petrillic@hachyderm.io

        @VeeRat I had to explain to someone that the act of taking the notes is 99% if the value for me. I almost never actually go back and read them. For me also, paper is better than electronic.

        But also zombies.

        noodlemaz@mstdn.gamesN This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #45

        @petrillic @VeeRat I do look stuff up in my notes all the time so I do electronic, can't search physical notebooks for a phrase or whatever. But totally get the value of handwriting for memory.

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        • yetzt@social.yetzt.meY yetzt@social.yetzt.me

          @N01100010 @VeeRat slopotomized ai zombies.

          clickhere@mastodon.ieC This user is from outside of this forum
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          clickhere@mastodon.ie
          wrote last edited by
          #46

          @yetzt Underrated toot.

          @N01100010 @VeeRat

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          • noodlemaz@mstdn.gamesN noodlemaz@mstdn.games

            @petrillic @VeeRat I do look stuff up in my notes all the time so I do electronic, can't search physical notebooks for a phrase or whatever. But totally get the value of handwriting for memory.

            petrillic@hachyderm.ioP This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote last edited by
            #47

            @noodlemaz @VeeRat note taking is a super personal thing, because it's deeply linked into how our brains work

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            • clonedhuman@mastodon.socialC clonedhuman@mastodon.social

              RE: https://tldr.nettime.org/@tante/116217631691585046

              @VeeRat Yep. https://mastodon.social/@tante@tldr.nettime.org/116217631979979055

              cavyherd@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #48

              @clonedhuman @VeeRat

              Friend of mine whose ancestors survived the European Pograms has pointed out that education is the only thing they can't take away from you.

              Seems like they're trying very hard to cover that base, too.

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              • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                Sigh.

                New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                arisummerland@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
                #49

                @VeeRat Wowwww, do I feel this, too! Sheesh. I don't want to turn my brain off!

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                • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                  Sigh.

                  New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                  Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                  New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                  Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                  New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                  Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

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                  darkerknight@climatejustice.social
                  wrote last edited by
                  #50

                  @VeeRat

                  AI Zombies - the body keeps on going causing mayhem while the brain died a long time before.

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                  • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                    Sigh.

                    New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                    Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                    New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                    Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                    New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                    Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                    evcjackson@mastodon.auE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    evcjackson@mastodon.au
                    wrote last edited by
                    #51

                    @VeeRat Join us... It's bliss 🧟‍♂️

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                    • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                      Sigh.

                      New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                      Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                      New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                      Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                      New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                      Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                      deborahh@cosocial.caD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      deborahh@cosocial.ca
                      wrote last edited by
                      #52

                      @VeeRat @david useful question, these days:

                      Them: something something AI, you should try it!

                      Us: what problem is this solving? (No thanks)

                      #noAI

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                      • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                        Sigh.

                        New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                        Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                        New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                        Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                        New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                        Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                        shnooflebear@curly.catS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        shnooflebear@curly.cat
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                        #53

                        @VeeRat Because $boss has usage targets and doesn't care why you do it by hand.

                        I would really like to see what kinds of bullshit contracts these people signed with MSFT....

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                        • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                          Sigh.

                          New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                          Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                          New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                          Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                          New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                          Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                          ftp_alun@infosec.exchangeF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          ftp_alun@infosec.exchange
                          wrote last edited by
                          #54

                          @VeeRat no learnings, just conclusions.

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                          • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                            Sigh.

                            New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                            Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                            New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                            Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                            New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                            Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                            usajusticewatch@mastodon.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                            usajusticewatch@mastodon.social
                            wrote last edited by
                            #55

                            @VeeRat. The research supports your method: https://www.learningscientists

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                            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                              @VeeRat They're trying to make converts because it validates their own use of the tools, which they feel insecure about. It's a quasi-religious evangelical impulse.

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                              #56

                              @cstross @VeeRat Raises the old point that those who feel secure in themselves are happy to treat others as valid and complementary, while those who are insecure have to push everyone else to do as they do, and patronise them.

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                              • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                                Sigh.

                                New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                                Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                                New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                                Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                                New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                                Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                                uwehalfhand@norcal.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #57

                                @VeeRat You are so right. In college, I tried one semester to not take notes, but listen attentively instead, because I rarely if ever referred back to the notes I had written. My grades divebombed… next semester, I started writing notes again, that I then never referred to, and my grades recovered. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Lesson learned.

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                                • tartley@fosstodon.orgT tartley@fosstodon.org

                                  @VeeRat So true. Often I'll write the notes and then never look at them again. The act of creating them is the point.

                                  pier@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #58

                                  @tartley @VeeRat Yes, I am 100% certain that this manager will never read the AI generated summary. And if they did they wouldn’t know what it was referring to. I hate everything about this timeline.

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                                  • uwehalfhand@norcal.socialU uwehalfhand@norcal.social

                                    @VeeRat You are so right. In college, I tried one semester to not take notes, but listen attentively instead, because I rarely if ever referred back to the notes I had written. My grades divebombed… next semester, I started writing notes again, that I then never referred to, and my grades recovered. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Lesson learned.

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                                    cstephens2@mastodon.social
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #59

                                    @UweHalfHand @VeeRat In college, I took notes in class, but they were hasty and not necessarily very legible. That evening, I'd re-write the notes in clearer handwriting, adding in things that I remembered from what I'd heard in class earlier. That extra bit of writing helped me to remember a lot more of what I'd learned.

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                                    • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                                      Sigh.

                                      New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                                      Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                                      New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                                      Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                                      New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                                      Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #60

                                      @VeeRat This is literally how I “cheated” my way through college. Write furiously during lecture. Go home and rewrite so your notes aren’t chaos. Maybe consult the textbook when your own notes confuse you. Aaaaand it’s beer o’clock! Never even glance at the notes ever again.

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                                        #61

                                        @Petesmom @VeeRat that makes them so efficient!!11!

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                                        • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                                          Sigh.

                                          New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                                          Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                                          New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                                          Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                                          New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                                          Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

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                                          nothacking@infosec.exchange
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                                          #62
                                          @VeeRat@zeroes.ca It's also good for thinking. It's very common for me to write something down and discover that it makes no sense or that I made an incorrect assumption.

                                          Using an LLM would free me of from the burden of finding out I was wrong... letting me stay wrong forever.
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