A 29-year-old warehouse worker burned down a Kimberly-Clark warehouse and destroyed $500M in inventory while stating, “All you had to do was pay us enough to live.”
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I used to maintain fire suppression systems at large facilities and they are designed by insurance engineers to be very difficult to defeat even by those who are very experienced. There's a LOT of redundancy with the mechanical and supervisory systems and I believe only an inside job can effectually defeat them.
That being said, I have worked a fire from a contractor and seen the damage it can do. Smoke damage can wipe out countless millions of dollars in inventory in the 30 seconds it takes to put the fire out. Bad contactors can do even more damage quickly.
@dianea @QasimRashid Fire suppression with toilet paper as the inventory, tho', is going to have special challenges.
I'm just pondering where that person's mind and heart have to be to do this, knowing they'll get caught. Did they just not care, or do they imagine they'll become a legend and a hero (and they might)? -
A 29-year-old warehouse worker burned down a Kimberly-Clark warehouse and destroyed $500M in inventory while stating, “All you had to do was pay us enough to live.”
So I quickly researched his claim. And the numbers don’t look good for Kimberly-Clark. https://youtube.com/shorts/uim6Egt66bM?si=rL-_kfaAYX_kkvpm
The economic argument in the video is bs.
First, two people at that stage would have a comfortable living, so if you're single, double up with someone else. Two income households is the norm nowadays.
Second, if you can't make a living there on your wage, either change jobs or move somewhere cheaper - you've got the whole country.
Third, no union? Form a union. Union is ineffective? Work to change it.
People pull up stakes all the time. Just burning down the place is cowardly.
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A 29-year-old warehouse worker burned down a Kimberly-Clark warehouse and destroyed $500M in inventory while stating, “All you had to do was pay us enough to live.”
So I quickly researched his claim. And the numbers don’t look good for Kimberly-Clark. https://youtube.com/shorts/uim6Egt66bM?si=rL-_kfaAYX_kkvpm
you're not endorsing it. But until billionaires fear us, they will hurt us. A little fear goes a long way toward a living wage.
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@dianea @QasimRashid Fire suppression with toilet paper as the inventory, tho', is going to have special challenges.
I'm just pondering where that person's mind and heart have to be to do this, knowing they'll get caught. Did they just not care, or do they imagine they'll become a legend and a hero (and they might)?they are a legend and a hero, whether you acknowledge that or not. All she had to do was pay her workers a living wage. Billions in profit. Whose side are you on?
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@Sfwmson
No, I don't want corporations "choosing to do good", out of their good will. Because that gives them the option to select what they do. That gives them the option of stopping to do that. That gives them stopping to do that as a bargaining argument.
Tax them. Use the resources where appropriate. Don't give them the option of not doing that.
And if they want to do *more*, *on top* of that, well, no one is stopping them.
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The economic argument in the video is bs.
First, two people at that stage would have a comfortable living, so if you're single, double up with someone else. Two income households is the norm nowadays.
Second, if you can't make a living there on your wage, either change jobs or move somewhere cheaper - you've got the whole country.
Third, no union? Form a union. Union is ineffective? Work to change it.
People pull up stakes all the time. Just burning down the place is cowardly.
@barbra @QasimRashid Oh sure. Who needs warehouse workers, right? And who needs independence when you can just live in a tenement with seven other people while your landlord gets rich?
How does it feel to be part of the problem, Barbra?
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Don't put words in my mouth.
I have 3 courses of active n which are legal, honourable, and don't result in their co-workers losing their jobs:
1. Union action;
2. Change jobs to a lower-cost area. Plenty of workers won't take a job in SillyValley because, even with a 6-figure income, they would have a lower standard of living than making half as much elsewhere;
3. Finding someone else to share expenses with.So instead the asshole put all his co-workers out on the street. I'm sure they just LOVE him for that.
But HE has no problem - he'll get free room and board and medical care, he's got his, Fuck his co-workers.
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@barbra @QasimRashid Oh sure. Who needs warehouse workers, right? And who needs independence when you can just live in a tenement with seven other people while your landlord gets rich?
How does it feel to be part of the problem, Barbra?
I proposed constructive solutions. Union action wouldn't have left his co-workers and their families out on the street.
And sharing expenses with ONE (not 7) other person is what plenty of working families do.
Ask his now-unemployed co-workers how they feel about him. Good thing he's in jail - they'd probably beat the crap out of him because unlike him, who gets all his housing a And medical covered for the next 5-10 years, they're jobless and facing being out on the street and no medical.
If they were precarious before, they're facing destitution now. Why not spare a thought for them instead of white-knighting this asshole?
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Don't put words in my mouth.
I have 3 courses of active n which are legal, honourable, and don't result in their co-workers losing their jobs:
1. Union action;
2. Change jobs to a lower-cost area. Plenty of workers won't take a job in SillyValley because, even with a 6-figure income, they would have a lower standard of living than making half as much elsewhere;
3. Finding someone else to share expenses with.So instead the asshole put all his co-workers out on the street. I'm sure they just LOVE him for that.
But HE has no problem - he'll get free room and board and medical care, he's got his, Fuck his co-workers.
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they are a legend and a hero, whether you acknowledge that or not. All she had to do was pay her workers a living wage. Billions in profit. Whose side are you on?
@FranceskaMann @dianea @QasimRashid YOu're answerign my question, thanks.
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@Sfwmson @bweller @QasimRashid in a perfect world (or, I think still happening in some places in the world, and less than a century ago in USA) the CEO salary would be 4x that of a general worker, not 400x
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@richlv @peterbrown @QasimRashid
I'm well aware of Amazon's anti-union tactics. One warehouse here unionized, they closed them all down. That doesn't mean that unions aren't viable - just that stronger legislation is needed to level the playing field.
In other words, change politicians.
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A 29-year-old warehouse worker burned down a Kimberly-Clark warehouse and destroyed $500M in inventory while stating, “All you had to do was pay us enough to live.”
So I quickly researched his claim. And the numbers don’t look good for Kimberly-Clark. https://youtube.com/shorts/uim6Egt66bM?si=rL-_kfaAYX_kkvpm
@QasimRashid O M G. I do understand his sentiment; HOWEVER, this is so extreme. Thanks for the cost of living stats for that area and Kimberly Clark data.
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@QasimRashid O M G. I do understand his sentiment; HOWEVER, this is so extreme. Thanks for the cost of living stats for that area and Kimberly Clark data.
@indigo8s extreme is how id describe wealth inequality the rich perpetrate
this is just a toilet paper fire. literally shit tickets. just stuff. not working class people.
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@peterbrown @QasimRashid Thank you for this gem of a chart! As a child of the 1950s, I learned from my modest income parents (children during the Great Depression) that the rich were finally paying their fair share in the 1950s and early 1960s.
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@indigo8s extreme is how id describe wealth inequality the rich perpetrate
this is just a toilet paper fire. literally shit tickets. just stuff. not working class people.
@bweller @QasimRashid Yes, that too!
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The economic argument in the video is bs.
First, two people at that stage would have a comfortable living, so if you're single, double up with someone else. Two income households is the norm nowadays.
Second, if you can't make a living there on your wage, either change jobs or move somewhere cheaper - you've got the whole country.
Third, no union? Form a union. Union is ineffective? Work to change it.
People pull up stakes all the time. Just burning down the place is cowardly.
@barbra @QasimRashid
Just dropping in here to say fuck off, barbra. Fix your heart, collaborator. -
Don't put words in my mouth.
I have 3 courses of active n which are legal, honourable, and don't result in their co-workers losing their jobs:
1. Union action;
2. Change jobs to a lower-cost area. Plenty of workers won't take a job in SillyValley because, even with a 6-figure income, they would have a lower standard of living than making half as much elsewhere;
3. Finding someone else to share expenses with.So instead the asshole put all his co-workers out on the street. I'm sure they just LOVE him for that.
But HE has no problem - he'll get free room and board and medical care, he's got his, Fuck his co-workers.
@barbra @peterbrown @QasimRashid I’m pretty sure his coworkers won’t be out on the street. Someone very clever suggested people could just form a union, live in a multi income household or get a job elsewhere.
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@richlv @peterbrown @QasimRashid
I'm well aware of Amazon's anti-union tactics. One warehouse here unionized, they closed them all down. That doesn't mean that unions aren't viable - just that stronger legislation is needed to level the playing field.
In other words, change politicians.
@barbra @peterbrown @QasimRashid It looks like some people feel like they are trapped and have no agency. If you want to give them orders, you'd have to go in and do things first.
