Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it.
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Software has been "built by machines, directed by people" for decades.
That's what compilers and linkers do, that's what uncountable lines of Bash and endless CI/CD pipelines are – machines building software, directed by people.
And for decades, the bottleneck has not been churning out code. It was code review, it was quality control, it was bug fixing. AI slop makes that *worse*, not better:
https://freakonometrics.hypotheses.org/89367GitLab, and the rest of the industry, is solving for the wrong problem.
@rysiek loved this article. Very well thought out.
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Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.
But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:
> Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/@rysiek first you lock in your customers, then you lock in your investors...
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Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.
But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:
> Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/@rysiek time to move to frogejo
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@rysiek There's a chance this is just some yapping about how great AI is to make investors happy.
But its best to remain cautious@Eichi whatever it is, it is a huge red flag and does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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@rysiek "right-sizing" is such an euphemistic way to say that people will be fired. This decision to move that way was surely not driven by the development department but by their investors.
I guess that this currently happens in a lot of companies. And I really can't see that this will go out well. This whole "The AI will save us multiple people" doesn't work. Sure, it speeds up things, but it increases the review time a lot. And when I understood that post in the right way, they even dream of letting humans completely out of the loop - and that will fail.
@heluecht "right-sizing" is just a euphemism for "we, the management, fucked up long-term planning and over-hired; we are bad at our jobs, but since we are calling the shots, we are not the ones who will pay for them."
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Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.
But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:
> Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/@rysiek we will write own git repo mgr with rust and horses
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Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.
But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:
> Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/@rysiek grossssssssssssssss
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@rysiek time to move to frogejo
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Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.
But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:
> Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/@rysiek looks like need to start looking for an alternative.
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@rysiek looks like need to start looking for an alternative.
@rbphotographic I am probably going to replace my GitLab instance with Forgejo.
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Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.
But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:
> Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/@rysiek ugh. I have been debating where I wanted to move to when I ditch GitHub for close to a year now. I got real hinky 'vibes' when I looked at GitLab's website last week and the entire homepage was a love letter to AI. Fuck that shit. Self hosed Forgego or Codeberg it is then.
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@rbphotographic I am probably going to replace my GitLab instance with Forgejo.
@rysiek ill look into it.
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And if you've read that far and you're in IT, I have one word for you: unionize.
@rysiek Which is in stark contrast to some developers commentary, elsewhere and on here, about *waves hands all over* the situation: "we'll just have to wait and see what happens"
Wait for what? I don't know how many times I've worked with folks and their default behavior is "We'll just have to let the bad thing keep happening and maybe management will realize the problem". It only gets worse.
If they have an audience/platform, clout, or money _they should be pushing people to unionize_.
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Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.
But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:
> Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2//me packs his bags.
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@rysiek Which is in stark contrast to some developers commentary, elsewhere and on here, about *waves hands all over* the situation: "we'll just have to wait and see what happens"
Wait for what? I don't know how many times I've worked with folks and their default behavior is "We'll just have to let the bad thing keep happening and maybe management will realize the problem". It only gets worse.
If they have an audience/platform, clout, or money _they should be pushing people to unionize_.
@zimzat yup.
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Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.
But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:
> Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/@rysiek I didn't know that GitLab wanted people to use Forgejo so badly.
Now GitHub are probably going to do something similar, like try to find a way to sell Copilot more than they are already are
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Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.
But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:
> Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/@rysiek "Be sure to put 'customers' before 'investors' in the blurb, that will be mad funny"
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Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.
But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:
> Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/@rysiek #TechBros gotta bunker down while peak stock markets and other assets, take the inevitable slide from greed #Capitalism.
Backup plans far enough away from these effects, is paramount - especially if you or yours can make a rudimentary difference, in a more #sustainable ecosystem.
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Software has been "built by machines, directed by people" for decades.
That's what compilers and linkers do, that's what uncountable lines of Bash and endless CI/CD pipelines are – machines building software, directed by people.
And for decades, the bottleneck has not been churning out code. It was code review, it was quality control, it was bug fixing. AI slop makes that *worse*, not better:
https://freakonometrics.hypotheses.org/89367GitLab, and the rest of the industry, is solving for the wrong problem.
@rysiek I am so glad I came to this article thanks to you! It manages to clearly state the worries I have as a test consultant in a world where no one seems to care about quality anymore, in a way I could never find the words for. I also learned about the term credence goods for the first time.
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Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.
But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:
> Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/@rysiek the first time i heard MicroShit bought it, i was done there. I just setup an open to all VCS on MPAQ. We REFUSE to let AI in our network INCLUDING "spell check". All of that shit is band on our systems. We write 100% of our own code. One of our team is in the middle of https://voip.mpaq.org
With that said, SELF HOST or look for something like https://vcs.mpaq.org
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