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Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it.

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  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

    Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.

    But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:

    > Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
    https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/

    #GitLab #AI #FuckAI #SoftwareDevelopment

    heluecht@pirati.caH This user is from outside of this forum
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    #18

    @rysiek "right-sizing" is such an euphemistic way to say that people will be fired. This decision to move that way was surely not driven by the development department but by their investors.

    I guess that this currently happens in a lot of companies. And I really can't see that this will go out well. This whole "The AI will save us multiple people" doesn't work. Sure, it speeds up things, but it increases the review time a lot. And when I understood that post in the right way, they even dream of letting humans completely out of the loop - and that will fail.

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    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

      Software has been "built by machines, directed by people" for decades.

      That's what compilers and linkers do, that's what uncountable lines of Bash and endless CI/CD pipelines are – machines building software, directed by people.

      And for decades, the bottleneck has not been churning out code. It was code review, it was quality control, it was bug fixing. AI slop makes that *worse*, not better:
      https://freakonometrics.hypotheses.org/89367

      GitLab, and the rest of the industry, is solving for the wrong problem.

      tobiaspatton@cosocial.caT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @rysiek loved this article. Very well thought out.

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      • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

        Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.

        But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:

        > Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
        https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/

        #GitLab #AI #FuckAI #SoftwareDevelopment

        nzjayzee@mastodon.nzN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #20

        @rysiek first you lock in your customers, then you lock in your investors...

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        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

          Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.

          But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:

          > Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
          https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/

          #GitLab #AI #FuckAI #SoftwareDevelopment

          britter@chaos.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          britter@chaos.social
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          #21

          @rysiek time to move to frogejo 🤷‍♂️

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          • eichi@mastodon.bierschutzpartei.deE eichi@mastodon.bierschutzpartei.de

            @rysiek There's a chance this is just some yapping about how great AI is to make investors happy.
            But its best to remain cautious

            rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Eichi whatever it is, it is a huge red flag and does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.

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            • heluecht@pirati.caH heluecht@pirati.ca

              @rysiek "right-sizing" is such an euphemistic way to say that people will be fired. This decision to move that way was surely not driven by the development department but by their investors.

              I guess that this currently happens in a lot of companies. And I really can't see that this will go out well. This whole "The AI will save us multiple people" doesn't work. Sure, it speeds up things, but it increases the review time a lot. And when I understood that post in the right way, they even dream of letting humans completely out of the loop - and that will fail.

              rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              rysiek@mstdn.social
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              #23

              @heluecht "right-sizing" is just a euphemism for "we, the management, fucked up long-term planning and over-hired; we are bad at our jobs, but since we are calling the shots, we are not the ones who will pay for them."

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              • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.

                But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:

                > Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
                https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/

                #GitLab #AI #FuckAI #SoftwareDevelopment

                fozzy@defcon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #24

                @rysiek we will write own git repo mgr with rust and horses

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                • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                  Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.

                  But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:

                  > Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
                  https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/

                  #GitLab #AI #FuckAI #SoftwareDevelopment

                  miclgael@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #25

                  @rysiek grossssssssssssssss

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                  • britter@chaos.socialB britter@chaos.social

                    @rysiek time to move to frogejo 🤷‍♂️

                    afterdark@shellsharks.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #26

                    @britter @rysiek 🐸☕️

                    "Frogjoe" 👍

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                    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                      Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.

                      But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:

                      > Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
                      https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/

                      #GitLab #AI #FuckAI #SoftwareDevelopment

                      rbphotographic@mastodon.worldR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      rbphotographic@mastodon.world
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                      #27

                      @rysiek looks like need to start looking for an alternative.

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                      • rbphotographic@mastodon.worldR rbphotographic@mastodon.world

                        @rysiek looks like need to start looking for an alternative.

                        rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #28

                        @rbphotographic I am probably going to replace my GitLab instance with Forgejo.

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                        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                          Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.

                          But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:

                          > Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
                          https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/

                          #GitLab #AI #FuckAI #SoftwareDevelopment

                          danni_storm@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          danni_storm@hachyderm.io
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                          @rysiek ugh. I have been debating where I wanted to move to when I ditch GitHub for close to a year now. I got real hinky 'vibes' when I looked at GitLab's website last week and the entire homepage was a love letter to AI. Fuck that shit. Self hosed Forgego or Codeberg it is then.

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                          • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                            @rbphotographic I am probably going to replace my GitLab instance with Forgejo.

                            rbphotographic@mastodon.worldR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @rysiek ill look into it.

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                            • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                              And if you've read that far and you're in IT, I have one word for you: unionize. ✊

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                              @rysiek Which is in stark contrast to some developers commentary, elsewhere and on here, about *waves hands all over* the situation: "we'll just have to wait and see what happens"

                              Wait for what? I don't know how many times I've worked with folks and their default behavior is "We'll just have to let the bad thing keep happening and maybe management will realize the problem". It only gets worse.

                              If they have an audience/platform, clout, or money _they should be pushing people to unionize_.

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                              • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.

                                But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:

                                > Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
                                https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/

                                #GitLab #AI #FuckAI #SoftwareDevelopment

                                esi@merveilles.townE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @rysiek

                                /me packs his bags.

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                                • zimzat@mastodon.socialZ zimzat@mastodon.social

                                  @rysiek Which is in stark contrast to some developers commentary, elsewhere and on here, about *waves hands all over* the situation: "we'll just have to wait and see what happens"

                                  Wait for what? I don't know how many times I've worked with folks and their default behavior is "We'll just have to let the bad thing keep happening and maybe management will realize the problem". It only gets worse.

                                  If they have an audience/platform, clout, or money _they should be pushing people to unionize_.

                                  rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #33

                                  @zimzat yup.

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                                  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                    Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.

                                    But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:

                                    > Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
                                    https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/

                                    #GitLab #AI #FuckAI #SoftwareDevelopment

                                    bird@birdbox.partyB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #34

                                    @rysiek I didn't know that GitLab wanted people to use Forgejo so badly.

                                    Now GitHub are probably going to do something similar, like try to find a way to sell Copilot more than they are already are

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                                    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                      Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.

                                      But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:

                                      > Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
                                      https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/

                                      #GitLab #AI #FuckAI #SoftwareDevelopment

                                      angiebaby@mas.toA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #35

                                      @rysiek "Be sure to put 'customers' before 'investors' in the blurb, that will be mad funny"

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                                      • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                        Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.

                                        But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:

                                        > Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
                                        https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/

                                        #GitLab #AI #FuckAI #SoftwareDevelopment

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                                        cauzation@mastodon.social
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                                        @rysiek #TechBros gotta bunker down while peak stock markets and other assets, take the inevitable slide from greed #Capitalism.

                                        Backup plans far enough away from these effects, is paramount - especially if you or yours can make a rudimentary difference, in a more #sustainable ecosystem.

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                                        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                          Software has been "built by machines, directed by people" for decades.

                                          That's what compilers and linkers do, that's what uncountable lines of Bash and endless CI/CD pipelines are – machines building software, directed by people.

                                          And for decades, the bottleneck has not been churning out code. It was code review, it was quality control, it was bug fixing. AI slop makes that *worse*, not better:
                                          https://freakonometrics.hypotheses.org/89367

                                          GitLab, and the rest of the industry, is solving for the wrong problem.

                                          maaikees@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          maaikees@hachyderm.io
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                                          #37

                                          @rysiek I am so glad I came to this article thanks to you! It manages to clearly state the worries I have as a test consultant in a world where no one seems to care about quality anymore, in a way I could never find the words for. I also learned about the term credence goods for the first time.

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