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  • davidm_yeg@beige.partyD davidm_yeg@beige.party

    @sundogplanets

    🤷‍♂️ I pay much closer attention to interviews with people who really do look like they’ve just stepped out of their lab or office or classroom or goat pen than sleek coiffed media ready talking heads.

    Thank you for the time to give to the public good!

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    @DavidM_yeg @sundogplanets

    Wholeheartedly agree with David. It’s your expertise that matters, and no ratty sweatshirt is going to detract from that.

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      @hattom @knud I did not know that about donkeys. My goats don't like getting wet, and avoid it when they can, but I have definitely seen them get damp and not have any issues.

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      @sundogplanets @hattom

      OK, so just like me 🙂

      The donkey's I am visiting ~1/year go into their stable or under their roof when it starts raining. I really like them.

      (I don't have any image available, sorry!)

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      • albertcardona@mathstodon.xyzA albertcardona@mathstodon.xyz

        @sundogplanets

        August 5, 2026 isn't that far away ...

        "There Will Come Soft Rains" by Ray Bradbury
        https://www.btboces.org/Downloads/7_There%20Will%20Come%20Soft%20Rains%20by%20Ray%20Bradbury.pdf

        #scifi

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        @albertcardona I think about this short story quite frequently, but haven't read it in years! I didn't realize there's an exact date in it! Wow.

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          A scary quick calculation: there are 10,375 Starlink satellites in orbit https://planet4589.org/space/con/conlist.html, all coming down within 5 years.

          That's an *average* of 5 or 6 a day for the next 5 years. And the v2's are bigger than the v1's. v2's are (conservatively) 1000kg and (conservatively) half aluminum. That's 2.5-3 tonnes of aluminum per day. 8 times the natural infall rate of aluminum (and there's lots of other scary things like lithium). What will that do to our atmosphere?

          SpaceX is awful.

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          @sundogplanets Amazon: wait wait, don't forget about me.

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          • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

            @lauren @sundogplanets

            There is no glass half full, they are sending more of it up all the time. The entire trillion dollar SpaceX IPO is predicated on pumping this satellite sewage into LEO.

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            @mastodonmigration @sundogplanets Better that the garbage isn't at orbits where it would hang around much longer.

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            • lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.orgL lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org

              @mastodonmigration @sundogplanets Better that the garbage isn't at orbits where it would hang around much longer.

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              @lauren @sundogplanets

              Indeed, at the current Starlink orbit it will all come down within 25 years. They want to start using higher orbits which will never come down.

              Mastodon Migration (@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online)

              Orbital Madness! You might be aware of the billionaires crazy Data Centers In Space, and Prof. Sam Lawler's @sundogplanets@mastodon.social efforts to save the planet from these lunatics. Just want to focus on one issue that should scare the heck out of everyone. Orbits above 1000km do not naturally come down. Starlinks orbit at 550km so debris deorbits within 25 years. They want to put these monstrosities in orbits up to 1800 km. A Kessler Syndrome event up there is forever! Madness! https://mastodon.online/@mastodonmigration/116407343907282036

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              • kimberlyn@cosocial.caK kimberlyn@cosocial.ca

                @DavidM_yeg @sundogplanets

                Wholeheartedly agree with David. It’s your expertise that matters, and no ratty sweatshirt is going to detract from that.

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                @KimberlyN @DavidM_yeg @sundogplanets Yup. It's the old riddle about the two barbers. The harried-looking one? That's the one doing all the work.

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                • albertcardona@mathstodon.xyzA albertcardona@mathstodon.xyz

                  @sundogplanets

                  August 5, 2026 isn't that far away ...

                  "There Will Come Soft Rains" by Ray Bradbury
                  https://www.btboces.org/Downloads/7_There%20Will%20Come%20Soft%20Rains%20by%20Ray%20Bradbury.pdf

                  #scifi

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                  @albertcardona @sundogplanets Oooh, going to set my alarm clock, lol.

                  Done!

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    Interview 2 went much better (which is good, Saskatoon is where it's most likely that pieces would be found, if there are any pieces) and I remembered to say the email address I want people to send possible space junk finds to! AND I got a better camera setup and actually brushed my hair. But I'm somehow going to end up on CBC national news in my ratty farm sweatshirt AGAIN aren't I?

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                    @sundogplanets the plus side is you won’t look like a slick PR shill.

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      A scary quick calculation: there are 10,375 Starlink satellites in orbit https://planet4589.org/space/con/conlist.html, all coming down within 5 years.

                      That's an *average* of 5 or 6 a day for the next 5 years. And the v2's are bigger than the v1's. v2's are (conservatively) 1000kg and (conservatively) half aluminum. That's 2.5-3 tonnes of aluminum per day. 8 times the natural infall rate of aluminum (and there's lots of other scary things like lithium). What will that do to our atmosphere?

                      SpaceX is awful.

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                      @sundogplanets As a Chinese citizen, I hope to one day use Starlink to bypass the GFW and access the open Internet. SpaceX is doing amazing work!

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                      • nixzhu@mastodon.socialN nixzhu@mastodon.social

                        @sundogplanets As a Chinese citizen, I hope to one day use Starlink to bypass the GFW and access the open Internet. SpaceX is doing amazing work!

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                        @nixzhu I'm sorry that's what you are forced to depend on. Enjoy it before SpaceX starts Kessler Syndrome, I guess?

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                        • albertcardona@mathstodon.xyzA albertcardona@mathstodon.xyz

                          @sundogplanets

                          August 5, 2026 isn't that far away ...

                          "There Will Come Soft Rains" by Ray Bradbury
                          https://www.btboces.org/Downloads/7_There%20Will%20Come%20Soft%20Rains%20by%20Ray%20Bradbury.pdf

                          #scifi

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                          @albertcardona @sundogplanets Also have an animated version

                          - YouTube

                          Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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                          • angelastella@social.treehouse.systemsA angelastella@social.treehouse.systems

                            @Perrin42 @sundogplanets

                            Had the idea it involved an ablation cascade aka Kessel syndrome.

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                            @angelastella @Perrin42 @sundogplanets
                            Of a rather larger initial mass!
                            The Moon.

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              Interview 2 went much better (which is good, Saskatoon is where it's most likely that pieces would be found, if there are any pieces) and I remembered to say the email address I want people to send possible space junk finds to! AND I got a better camera setup and actually brushed my hair. But I'm somehow going to end up on CBC national news in my ratty farm sweatshirt AGAIN aren't I?

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                              @sundogplanets IDK I feel like the ratty farm sweatshirt helps your message feel authentic

                              "I came to Saskatchewan to raise goats and watch stars BUT THESE JERKS STARTED DROPPING STUFF" is compelling

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                              • photo55@mastodon.socialP photo55@mastodon.social

                                @angelastella @Perrin42 @sundogplanets
                                Of a rather larger initial mass!
                                The Moon.

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                                @Photo55 @Perrin42 @sundogplanets

                                Remembering now! yeah, I really must read the book.

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                                • nixzhu@mastodon.socialN nixzhu@mastodon.social

                                  @sundogplanets As a Chinese citizen, I hope to one day use Starlink to bypass the GFW and access the open Internet. SpaceX is doing amazing work!

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                                  @nixzhu
                                  But you don't need anything in low earth orbit ( #LEO ) for that.
                                  Arthur C Clarke originally pointed out that 3 satellites in the geostationary orbit could provide up, down, and sideways, communication for the whole planet surface.

                                  You probably want a shorter delay and a lower power budget for your relay than that, but I submit that you do not need to reduce either to the levels LEO allows. Something between GEO and LEO would work nicely and be easier to track for comms.

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    A scary quick calculation: there are 10,375 Starlink satellites in orbit https://planet4589.org/space/con/conlist.html, all coming down within 5 years.

                                    That's an *average* of 5 or 6 a day for the next 5 years. And the v2's are bigger than the v1's. v2's are (conservatively) 1000kg and (conservatively) half aluminum. That's 2.5-3 tonnes of aluminum per day. 8 times the natural infall rate of aluminum (and there's lots of other scary things like lithium). What will that do to our atmosphere?

                                    SpaceX is awful.

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                                    @sundogplanets
                                    unintended terraforming?
                                    "Scientists are eager to understand how these particles of aerospace debris interact with other aerosols in the stratosphere because of anticipated increases in space traffic and their potential impact on the ozone layer. They also want to explore the impact of possible future proposals to seed the stratosphere with millions of tons of sulfur aerosols to slow the rate of global warming by reflecting sunlight back to space."
                                    https://research.noaa.gov/noaa-scientists-link-exotic-metal-particles-in-the-upper-atmosphere-to-rockets-satellites/

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                                    • angelastella@social.treehouse.systemsA angelastella@social.treehouse.systems

                                      @Photo55 @Perrin42 @sundogplanets

                                      Remembering now! yeah, I really must read the book.

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                                      @angelastella
                                      It is really quite good.

                                      Separately, one of the discussions I've seen in #SciFi is of the minimum size of society for prolonged survival in Space.
                                      Large.

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        A scary quick calculation: there are 10,375 Starlink satellites in orbit https://planet4589.org/space/con/conlist.html, all coming down within 5 years.

                                        That's an *average* of 5 or 6 a day for the next 5 years. And the v2's are bigger than the v1's. v2's are (conservatively) 1000kg and (conservatively) half aluminum. That's 2.5-3 tonnes of aluminum per day. 8 times the natural infall rate of aluminum (and there's lots of other scary things like lithium). What will that do to our atmosphere?

                                        SpaceX is awful.

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                                        @sundogplanets Also, every piece of aluminum that they burn or drop in the ocean is aluminum that could be used for other things.
                                        A very productive mine in Australia is closing because it's run out of ore. Copper mines are extracting ever larger amounts of rock to get smaller specks of copper sulphate.
                                        There's no thought for the future.

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                                        • photo55@mastodon.socialP photo55@mastodon.social

                                          @angelastella
                                          It is really quite good.

                                          Separately, one of the discussions I've seen in #SciFi is of the minimum size of society for prolonged survival in Space.
                                          Large.

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                                          @Photo55

                                          I remember a good discussion about that topic on Charles Stross' weblog. If the idea is having modern industry, it could run to millions.

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