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  • albertcardona@mathstodon.xyzA albertcardona@mathstodon.xyz

    @sundogplanets

    August 5, 2026 isn't that far away ...

    "There Will Come Soft Rains" by Ray Bradbury
    https://www.btboces.org/Downloads/7_There%20Will%20Come%20Soft%20Rains%20by%20Ray%20Bradbury.pdf

    #scifi

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    @albertcardona @sundogplanets Oooh, going to set my alarm clock, lol.

    Done!

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      Interview 2 went much better (which is good, Saskatoon is where it's most likely that pieces would be found, if there are any pieces) and I remembered to say the email address I want people to send possible space junk finds to! AND I got a better camera setup and actually brushed my hair. But I'm somehow going to end up on CBC national news in my ratty farm sweatshirt AGAIN aren't I?

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      @sundogplanets the plus side is you won’t look like a slick PR shill.

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        A scary quick calculation: there are 10,375 Starlink satellites in orbit https://planet4589.org/space/con/conlist.html, all coming down within 5 years.

        That's an *average* of 5 or 6 a day for the next 5 years. And the v2's are bigger than the v1's. v2's are (conservatively) 1000kg and (conservatively) half aluminum. That's 2.5-3 tonnes of aluminum per day. 8 times the natural infall rate of aluminum (and there's lots of other scary things like lithium). What will that do to our atmosphere?

        SpaceX is awful.

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        @sundogplanets As a Chinese citizen, I hope to one day use Starlink to bypass the GFW and access the open Internet. SpaceX is doing amazing work!

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        • nixzhu@mastodon.socialN nixzhu@mastodon.social

          @sundogplanets As a Chinese citizen, I hope to one day use Starlink to bypass the GFW and access the open Internet. SpaceX is doing amazing work!

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          @nixzhu I'm sorry that's what you are forced to depend on. Enjoy it before SpaceX starts Kessler Syndrome, I guess?

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          • albertcardona@mathstodon.xyzA albertcardona@mathstodon.xyz

            @sundogplanets

            August 5, 2026 isn't that far away ...

            "There Will Come Soft Rains" by Ray Bradbury
            https://www.btboces.org/Downloads/7_There%20Will%20Come%20Soft%20Rains%20by%20Ray%20Bradbury.pdf

            #scifi

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            @albertcardona @sundogplanets Also have an animated version

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oxP3TyuQx0

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            • angelastella@social.treehouse.systemsA angelastella@social.treehouse.systems

              @Perrin42 @sundogplanets

              Had the idea it involved an ablation cascade aka Kessel syndrome.

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              @angelastella @Perrin42 @sundogplanets
              Of a rather larger initial mass!
              The Moon.

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                Interview 2 went much better (which is good, Saskatoon is where it's most likely that pieces would be found, if there are any pieces) and I remembered to say the email address I want people to send possible space junk finds to! AND I got a better camera setup and actually brushed my hair. But I'm somehow going to end up on CBC national news in my ratty farm sweatshirt AGAIN aren't I?

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                @sundogplanets IDK I feel like the ratty farm sweatshirt helps your message feel authentic

                "I came to Saskatchewan to raise goats and watch stars BUT THESE JERKS STARTED DROPPING STUFF" is compelling

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                • photo55@mastodon.socialP photo55@mastodon.social

                  @angelastella @Perrin42 @sundogplanets
                  Of a rather larger initial mass!
                  The Moon.

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                  @Photo55 @Perrin42 @sundogplanets

                  Remembering now! yeah, I really must read the book.

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                  • nixzhu@mastodon.socialN nixzhu@mastodon.social

                    @sundogplanets As a Chinese citizen, I hope to one day use Starlink to bypass the GFW and access the open Internet. SpaceX is doing amazing work!

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                    @nixzhu
                    But you don't need anything in low earth orbit ( #LEO ) for that.
                    Arthur C Clarke originally pointed out that 3 satellites in the geostationary orbit could provide up, down, and sideways, communication for the whole planet surface.

                    You probably want a shorter delay and a lower power budget for your relay than that, but I submit that you do not need to reduce either to the levels LEO allows. Something between GEO and LEO would work nicely and be easier to track for comms.

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      A scary quick calculation: there are 10,375 Starlink satellites in orbit https://planet4589.org/space/con/conlist.html, all coming down within 5 years.

                      That's an *average* of 5 or 6 a day for the next 5 years. And the v2's are bigger than the v1's. v2's are (conservatively) 1000kg and (conservatively) half aluminum. That's 2.5-3 tonnes of aluminum per day. 8 times the natural infall rate of aluminum (and there's lots of other scary things like lithium). What will that do to our atmosphere?

                      SpaceX is awful.

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                      @sundogplanets
                      unintended terraforming?
                      "Scientists are eager to understand how these particles of aerospace debris interact with other aerosols in the stratosphere because of anticipated increases in space traffic and their potential impact on the ozone layer. They also want to explore the impact of possible future proposals to seed the stratosphere with millions of tons of sulfur aerosols to slow the rate of global warming by reflecting sunlight back to space."
                      https://research.noaa.gov/noaa-scientists-link-exotic-metal-particles-in-the-upper-atmosphere-to-rockets-satellites/

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                      • angelastella@social.treehouse.systemsA angelastella@social.treehouse.systems

                        @Photo55 @Perrin42 @sundogplanets

                        Remembering now! yeah, I really must read the book.

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                        @angelastella
                        It is really quite good.

                        Separately, one of the discussions I've seen in #SciFi is of the minimum size of society for prolonged survival in Space.
                        Large.

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          A scary quick calculation: there are 10,375 Starlink satellites in orbit https://planet4589.org/space/con/conlist.html, all coming down within 5 years.

                          That's an *average* of 5 or 6 a day for the next 5 years. And the v2's are bigger than the v1's. v2's are (conservatively) 1000kg and (conservatively) half aluminum. That's 2.5-3 tonnes of aluminum per day. 8 times the natural infall rate of aluminum (and there's lots of other scary things like lithium). What will that do to our atmosphere?

                          SpaceX is awful.

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                          @sundogplanets Also, every piece of aluminum that they burn or drop in the ocean is aluminum that could be used for other things.
                          A very productive mine in Australia is closing because it's run out of ore. Copper mines are extracting ever larger amounts of rock to get smaller specks of copper sulphate.
                          There's no thought for the future.

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                          • photo55@mastodon.socialP photo55@mastodon.social

                            @angelastella
                            It is really quite good.

                            Separately, one of the discussions I've seen in #SciFi is of the minimum size of society for prolonged survival in Space.
                            Large.

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                            @Photo55

                            I remember a good discussion about that topic on Charles Stross' weblog. If the idea is having modern industry, it could run to millions.

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              A scary quick calculation: there are 10,375 Starlink satellites in orbit https://planet4589.org/space/con/conlist.html, all coming down within 5 years.

                              That's an *average* of 5 or 6 a day for the next 5 years. And the v2's are bigger than the v1's. v2's are (conservatively) 1000kg and (conservatively) half aluminum. That's 2.5-3 tonnes of aluminum per day. 8 times the natural infall rate of aluminum (and there's lots of other scary things like lithium). What will that do to our atmosphere?

                              SpaceX is awful.

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                              @sundogplanets Horrible!

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                              • nixzhu@mastodon.socialN nixzhu@mastodon.social

                                @sundogplanets As a Chinese citizen, I hope to one day use Starlink to bypass the GFW and access the open Internet. SpaceX is doing amazing work!

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                                @nixzhu @sundogplanets We just need heavy industry in orbit so that the potential and kinetic energy of those satellites can be recycled. 😉
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                                • angelastella@social.treehouse.systemsA angelastella@social.treehouse.systems

                                  @Photo55

                                  I remember a good discussion about that topic on Charles Stross' weblog. If the idea is having modern industry, it could run to millions.

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                                  @angelastella
                                  That's the one.
                                  Various scifi authors have introduced ideas - rather deus ex machina ones - to reduce the number of bodies required to hold thouse skills and functions.
                                  I suppose now YouTube etc is a bit of a start 😉

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                                  • spottyfox@pounced-on.meS spottyfox@pounced-on.me

                                    @albertcardona @sundogplanets Also have an animated version

                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oxP3TyuQx0

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                                    @spottyfox @albertcardona @sundogplanets

                                    Apparently Bradbury was very popular in the Eastern Bloc. There's also a live-action Soviet Martian Chronicles. (And a bunch more. Low-budget not-very-good F 451, decent Veldt, etc.)

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                                    • photo55@mastodon.socialP photo55@mastodon.social

                                      @angelastella
                                      That's the one.
                                      Various scifi authors have introduced ideas - rather deus ex machina ones - to reduce the number of bodies required to hold thouse skills and functions.
                                      I suppose now YouTube etc is a bit of a start 😉

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                                      @Photo55

                                      Sharing practical knowledge is a must. And it's the kind of thing we already do, not like molecular nanotechnology enabling cornucopia machines, or either versatile robots, or something else.

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        @nixzhu I'm sorry that's what you are forced to depend on. Enjoy it before SpaceX starts Kessler Syndrome, I guess?

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                                        @sundogplanets If the Kessler Syndrome actually triggers, we’ll just have to launch a fleet of specialized 'cleaner satellites' to clear the debris field and restore the orbit.

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                                        • albertcardona@mathstodon.xyzA albertcardona@mathstodon.xyz

                                          @sundogplanets

                                          August 5, 2026 isn't that far away ...

                                          "There Will Come Soft Rains" by Ray Bradbury
                                          https://www.btboces.org/Downloads/7_There%20Will%20Come%20Soft%20Rains%20by%20Ray%20Bradbury.pdf

                                          #scifi

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                                          @albertcardona @sundogplanets Love this! Love Bradbury's crisp writing style and searing cynicism. Thanks!

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