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Anti-AI zealots: Get ready to scrub your beloved #Linux from your hard drives, or maybe switch to #devuan?

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  • feoh@oldbytes.spaceF feoh@oldbytes.space

    Anti-AI zealots: Get ready to scrub your beloved #Linux from your hard drives, or maybe switch to #devuan? ๐Ÿ™‚

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    @feoh Does #devuan still have the "Hitler was right" guy involved?

    Y'know. This guy? On your mailing list?

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    • feoh@oldbytes.spaceF feoh@oldbytes.space

      @freya I have zero idea. Trying to avoid LLMs feels like a fool's errand to me because they are EVERYWHERE.

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      @feoh I mean that's true, and I end up using them for camera shit but holy fuck no they're going nowhere near my servers

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      • freya@social.highenergymagic.netF freya@social.highenergymagic.net

        @feoh does devuan have any fash connections or weird shit? or is it a drop-in replacement

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        @freya @feoh Devuan is basically all the grumpy Debian veterans who were pissed that the init system was replaced *AT ALL* on Debian, so they forked.

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        • feoh@oldbytes.spaceF feoh@oldbytes.space

          @freya I have zero idea. Trying to avoid LLMs feels like a fool's errand to me because they are EVERYWHERE.

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          @feoh something suggests Illumos (the primary OS of my hypervisor) will not get LLM code any time soon

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          • feoh@oldbytes.spaceF feoh@oldbytes.space

            Anti-AI zealots: Get ready to scrub your beloved #Linux from your hard drives, or maybe switch to #devuan? ๐Ÿ™‚

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            Systemd 260 kills SysV, tells AI not to misbehave

            : Good luck with that

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            (www.theregister.com)

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            @feoh

            When I get a round tuit of sufficient size, I'm going to take a whack at setting up Debian with nosh (http://jdebp.info/Softwares/nosh/)

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            • cursedsilicon@social.restless.systemsC cursedsilicon@social.restless.systems

              @feoh Does #devuan still have the "Hitler was right" guy involved?

              Y'know. This guy? On your mailing list?

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              Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

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              (web.archive.org)

              techokami@woof.techT This user is from outside of this forum
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              @CursedSilicon @feoh what the fuck did I just read

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              • techokami@woof.techT techokami@woof.tech

                @freya @feoh Devuan is basically all the grumpy Debian veterans who were pissed that the init system was replaced *AT ALL* on Debian, so they forked.

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                @techokami @feoh are there Devuan cloud images available with cloud-init? If no, I can install from ISO, I just like autoprovisioning by my hypervisor

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                • freya@social.highenergymagic.netF freya@social.highenergymagic.net

                  @techokami @feoh are there Devuan cloud images available with cloud-init? If no, I can install from ISO, I just like autoprovisioning by my hypervisor

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                  @freya @feoh I have no idea! I'm a Fedora user myself, I'm just aware of the entire Devuan origin story.

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                  • dashdsrdash@tilde.zoneD dashdsrdash@tilde.zone

                    @feoh

                    When I get a round tuit of sufficient size, I'm going to take a whack at setting up Debian with nosh (http://jdebp.info/Softwares/nosh/)

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                    @dashdsrdash You would get along with my other friend from Derry, NH who was also a disciple of djb for yonks and ran djbdns until it died of old age ๐Ÿ™‚

                    I will freely admit to not caring that much about init systems.

                    SysV init worked just fine for my needs for a very long time. It had warts and shortcomings, but all software does.

                    nosh does look neat. It definitely "feels" more UNIX-y than systemd, which feels more like an enterprise developer decided to write an init system, missed Spring and Hibernate, and lift and shifted them over to their new project, if only in spirit and bulk ๐Ÿ™‚

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                    • feoh@oldbytes.spaceF feoh@oldbytes.space

                      Anti-AI zealots: Get ready to scrub your beloved #Linux from your hard drives, or maybe switch to #devuan? ๐Ÿ™‚

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                      Systemd 260 kills SysV, tells AI not to misbehave

                      : Good luck with that

                      favicon

                      (www.theregister.com)

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                      @feoh between this and the age verification field they should have near 100% coverage for user alienation

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                      • techokami@woof.techT techokami@woof.tech

                        @CursedSilicon @feoh what the fuck did I just read

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                        @techokami @feoh Enrico Weigelt, aka "Metux"

                        He's also the guy that Linus Torvalds personally told to fuck off the LKML for being an antivaxxer!

                        Weirdly, he's super popular in #devuan

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                        • cursedsilicon@social.restless.systemsC cursedsilicon@social.restless.systems

                          @techokami @feoh Enrico Weigelt, aka "Metux"

                          He's also the guy that Linus Torvalds personally told to fuck off the LKML for being an antivaxxer!

                          Weirdly, he's super popular in #devuan

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                          @CursedSilicon @feoh uhoh, that's... not a good sign

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                          • techokami@woof.techT techokami@woof.tech

                            @CursedSilicon @feoh what the fuck did I just read

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                            @techokami @CursedSilicon @feoh what the FUCK did i just read holy fucking shit this is insane

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                            • techokami@woof.techT techokami@woof.tech

                              @CursedSilicon @feoh uhoh, that's... not a good sign

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                              @techokami @feoh he's also the guy who founded "Xlibre" because Wayland was too woke or something

                              Oops

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                              • cursedsilicon@social.restless.systemsC cursedsilicon@social.restless.systems

                                @techokami @feoh he's also the guy who founded "Xlibre" because Wayland was too woke or something

                                Oops

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                                @CursedSilicon @feoh WELP, Devuan is cursed

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                                • techokami@woof.techT techokami@woof.tech

                                  @CursedSilicon @feoh WELP, Devuan is cursed

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                                  @techokami @CursedSilicon @feoh i knew there was a reason i was giving devuan a very wide berth - i'd forgotten that was it.

                                  bookmarked now, so i don't forget again ๐Ÿ˜ž

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                                  • millihertz@oldbytes.spaceM millihertz@oldbytes.space

                                    @techokami @CursedSilicon @feoh i knew there was a reason i was giving devuan a very wide berth - i'd forgotten that was it.

                                    bookmarked now, so i don't forget again ๐Ÿ˜ž

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                                    @millihertz @techokami @feoh Some days I feel like a bard but all I ever do is tell tales of people being complete fucking assholes

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                                    • cursedsilicon@social.restless.systemsC cursedsilicon@social.restless.systems

                                      @millihertz @techokami @feoh Some days I feel like a bard but all I ever do is tell tales of people being complete fucking assholes

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                                      @CursedSilicon @techokami @feoh such is the lot of the post-truth era Cassandra

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                                      • cursedsilicon@social.restless.systemsC cursedsilicon@social.restless.systems

                                        @millihertz @techokami @feoh Some days I feel like a bard but all I ever do is tell tales of people being complete fucking assholes

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                                        @CursedSilicon @millihertz @feoh The only thing I could remember about Devuan was the forking because sysvinit removal from Debian thing... and it turns out the whole thing is a toxic dumpster fire

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                                        • millihertz@oldbytes.spaceM millihertz@oldbytes.space

                                          @CursedSilicon @techokami @feoh such is the lot of the post-truth era Cassandra

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                                          @millihertz @techokami @feoh I'm so tired of events

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