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  3. step one in any possible reboot of the free software movement is always gonna be to refuse corporate sponsorship .

step one in any possible reboot of the free software movement is always gonna be to refuse corporate sponsorship .

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  • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

    @fiore @nagirin i'm interested in codifying support for genocide and surveillance into a license cc @LGUG2Z

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    @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io licenses mean very little to me

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    • fiore@brain.worm.pinkF fiore@brain.worm.pink

      @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io licenses mean very little to me

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      @fiore @LGUG2Z @nagirin they are one way to define guarantees. how else can we do so? i also advocate for no-support resolutions which would be intransitive and alongside the code of conduct

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      • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

        @fiore @LGUG2Z @nagirin they are one way to define guarantees. how else can we do so? i also advocate for no-support resolutions which would be intransitive and alongside the code of conduct

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        @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net licensing is a legal tool , and the law means very little to the corporations im trying to defend against

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        • fiore@brain.worm.pinkF fiore@brain.worm.pink

          @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net licensing is a legal tool , and the law means very little to the corporations im trying to defend against

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          @fiore@brain.worm.pink @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io I'll add that by using the legal system specifically centred around treating corporations as individuals, you are scoring an own goal and playing by rules with disadvantage the goals of a free software movement.

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          • nagirin@sk.myxoz.netN nagirin@sk.myxoz.net

            @fiore@brain.worm.pink @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io I'll add that by using the legal system specifically centred around treating corporations as individuals, you are scoring an own goal and playing by rules with disadvantage the goals of a free software movement.

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            @nagirin @fiore @LGUG2Z i attempted to focus on guarantees and described why and how license changes compliment over strategies. i like having guarantees codified

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            • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

              @nagirin @fiore @LGUG2Z i attempted to focus on guarantees and described why and how license changes compliment over strategies. i like having guarantees codified

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              @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io the fsf has failed to provide what we are seeking , and the fsf has produced some pretty darn good licenses . the reason this all went to shit is that licensing is not the way to move forward , it is not a weapon

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              • fiore@brain.worm.pinkF fiore@brain.worm.pink

                @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io the fsf has failed to provide what we are seeking , and the fsf has produced some pretty darn good licenses . the reason this all went to shit is that licensing is not the way to move forward , it is not a weapon

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                @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net codifying things thru licenses means codifying the whole movement thru the language of the oppressor

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                • fiore@brain.worm.pinkF fiore@brain.worm.pink

                  @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net codifying things thru licenses means codifying the whole movement thru the language of the oppressor

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                  @fiore@brain.worm.pink @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io we made murder illegal yet people still kill how could this happen

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                  • fiore@brain.worm.pinkF fiore@brain.worm.pink

                    @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run "non-person" . this also includes corpo affiliations , ofc

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                    @fiore @hipsterelectron whimpers

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                    • srazkvt@tech.lgbtS srazkvt@tech.lgbt

                      @fiore @hipsterelectron whimpers

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                      @SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run oh my god

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                      • nagirin@sk.myxoz.netN nagirin@sk.myxoz.net

                        @fiore@brain.worm.pink @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io we made murder illegal yet people still kill how could this happen

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                        @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io checkmate ...

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                        • fiore@brain.worm.pinkF fiore@brain.worm.pink

                          @reia@linfan.moe ermm those all seem like things a corpo would be worried about .. /j(id love to respond more seriously but im late to a dentist appointment rn i gtg weehhh)

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                          @reia@linfan.moe teehee my mouth feels funy for anesthesia teehee

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                          • fiore@brain.worm.pinkF fiore@brain.worm.pink

                            @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net codifying things thru licenses means codifying the whole movement thru the language of the oppressor

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                            @fiore @LGUG2Z @nagirin see also https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/116460473270273617

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                            • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                              @fiore @LGUG2Z @nagirin see also https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/116460473270273617

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                              @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net i agree but i do /not/ think gnu is a solid base in the slightest . i think if we are still gonna do unix (grrr) we should use good code and rip it out of bsd

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                              • fiore@brain.worm.pinkF fiore@brain.worm.pink

                                @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net i agree but i do /not/ think gnu is a solid base in the slightest . i think if we are still gonna do unix (grrr) we should use good code and rip it out of bsd

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                                @fiore @LGUG2Z @nagirin gnu has portability

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                                • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                                  @fiore @LGUG2Z @nagirin gnu has portability

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                                  @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net first of all , no , second of all , bad software is bad on all platforms . lets do plan 9 can we do 9 please please weve done unix for so long

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                                  • fiore@brain.worm.pinkF fiore@brain.worm.pink

                                    @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net first of all , no , second of all , bad software is bad on all platforms . lets do plan 9 can we do 9 please please weve done unix for so long

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                                    @fiore @LGUG2Z @nagirin i have only ever known a world of linux and i have a filesystem project that won't be limited to posix. i want a deeper microkernel user-space API

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                                    • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                                      @fiore @LGUG2Z @nagirin i have only ever known a world of linux and i have a filesystem project that won't be limited to posix. i want a deeper microkernel user-space API

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                                      @fiore @LGUG2Z @nagirin i'm robert pike's biggest hater on the planet

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                                      • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                                        @fiore @LGUG2Z @nagirin i'm robert pike's biggest hater on the planet

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                                        @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net demonstrably false : that would be me

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