step one in any possible reboot of the free software movement is always gonna be to refuse corporate sponsorship .

[hipsterelectron@circumstances.run]

@fiore @nagirin i'm interested in codifying support for genocide and surveillance into a license cc @LGUG2Z

[fiore@brain.worm.pink]

@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io licenses mean very little to me

[hipsterelectron@circumstances.run]

@fiore @LGUG2Z @nagirin they are one way to define guarantees. how else can we do so? i also advocate for no-support resolutions which would be intransitive and alongside the code of conduct

[fiore@brain.worm.pink]

@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net licensing is a legal tool , and the law means very little to the corporations im trying to defend against

[nagirin@sk.myxoz.net]

@fiore@brain.worm.pink @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io I'll add that by using the legal system specifically centred around treating corporations as individuals, you are scoring an own goal and playing by rules with disadvantage the goals of a free software movement.

[hipsterelectron@circumstances.run]

@nagirin @fiore @LGUG2Z i attempted to focus on guarantees and described why and how license changes compliment over strategies. i like having guarantees codified

[fiore@brain.worm.pink]

@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io the fsf has failed to provide what we are seeking , and the fsf has produced some pretty darn good licenses . the reason this all went to shit is that licensing is not the way to move forward , it is not a weapon

[fiore@brain.worm.pink]

@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net codifying things thru licenses means codifying the whole movement thru the language of the oppressor

[nagirin@sk.myxoz.net]

@fiore@brain.worm.pink @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io we made murder illegal yet people still kill how could this happen

[srazkvt@tech.lgbt]

@fiore @hipsterelectron whimpers

[fiore@brain.worm.pink]

@SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run oh my god

[fiore@brain.worm.pink]

@nagirin@sk.myxoz.net @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io checkmate ...

[fiore@brain.worm.pink]

@reia@linfan.moe teehee my mouth feels funy for anesthesia teehee

[hipsterelectron@circumstances.run]

@fiore @LGUG2Z @nagirin see also https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/116460473270273617

[fiore@brain.worm.pink]

@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net i agree but i do /not/ think gnu is a solid base in the slightest . i think if we are still gonna do unix (grrr) we should use good code and rip it out of bsd

[hipsterelectron@circumstances.run]

@fiore @LGUG2Z @nagirin gnu has portability

[fiore@brain.worm.pink]

@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net first of all , no , second of all , bad software is bad on all platforms . lets do plan 9 can we do 9 please please weve done unix for so long

[hipsterelectron@circumstances.run]

@fiore @LGUG2Z @nagirin i have only ever known a world of linux and i have a filesystem project that won't be limited to posix. i want a deeper microkernel user-space API

[hipsterelectron@circumstances.run]

@fiore @LGUG2Z @nagirin i'm robert pike's biggest hater on the planet

[fiore@brain.worm.pink]

@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @LGUG2Z@hachyderm.io @nagirin@sk.myxoz.net demonstrably false : that would be me