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  3. I woke up still pondering @girlonthenet's lamentation (I think; https://mastodon.social/@girlonthenet/116353766078817354), that while lots of people enjoy her sex blog, few people boost her toots about it.

I woke up still pondering @girlonthenet's lamentation (I think; https://mastodon.social/@girlonthenet/116353766078817354), that while lots of people enjoy her sex blog, few people boost her toots about it.

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  • jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.ukJ jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

    @alexisbushnell
    It's definitely a hard one to deal with because a DV victim could definitely be coerced into saying things were consensual.

    I think the laws need reforming but I cannot say how it could be done.

    If I were a lawyer I wouldn't want to touch this one with a barge pole.
    @neil @joykill

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    @jamesb @alexisbushnell @joykill

    Touching people with bargepoles is fine if done consensually and gently.

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    • jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.ukJ jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

      @alexisbushnell
      It's definitely a hard one to deal with because a DV victim could definitely be coerced into saying things were consensual.

      I think the laws need reforming but I cannot say how it could be done.

      If I were a lawyer I wouldn't want to touch this one with a barge pole.
      @neil @joykill

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      @jamesb @neil @joykill is it too late for me to sack off psychology for a law degree and Elle Woods the fuck out of this?!?!?!?! /sarcasm

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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

        @jamesb @alexisbushnell @joykill FWIW, you didn't come across oppressively anyway!

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        @neil
        *sigh*

        Let me try again, I'll just go and step into something a bit more... uncomfortable.
        @alexisbushnell @joykill

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        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

          @jamesb @alexisbushnell @joykill

          Touching people with bargepoles is fine if done consensually and gently.

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          @neil
          As long as it doesn't cause "disfigurement, mutilation, or serious harm, particularly in a non-consensual or sexualized context".
          @alexisbushnell @joykill

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          • alexisbushnell@toot.walesA alexisbushnell@toot.wales

            @jamesb @neil @joykill is it too late for me to sack off psychology for a law degree and Elle Woods the fuck out of this?!?!?!?! /sarcasm

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            @alexisbushnell @jamesb @joykill

            Law degree ftw 🙂

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            • jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.ukJ jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

              @neil
              As long as it doesn't cause "disfigurement, mutilation, or serious harm, particularly in a non-consensual or sexualized context".
              @alexisbushnell @joykill

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              @jamesb @neil @joykill I personally enjoy stuff that would come under disfigurement, mutilation and serious harm. / serious

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              • alexisbushnell@toot.walesA alexisbushnell@toot.wales

                @jamesb @neil @joykill I personally enjoy stuff that would come under disfigurement, mutilation and serious harm. / serious

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                @alexisbushnell
                I see stuff like that in my "site" timeline quite often. It's obvious that everyone involved enjoyed it but I'm still breaking the law seeing the photos even though I didn't actively go and search for it. It's definitely not my kink but I have no problem with people doing it.
                @neil @joykill

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                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                  Hmm... I wonder (I told you that I was pondering!) if there is an added factor here, of the fedi demographic: of older people, perhaps especially men (don't laugh), being self-aware of engaging with younger adults posting sex-related stuff, and coming across as creepy. Perhaps?

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                  @neil I think this could easily play a role.

                  My body tends to be read as femme by people who only see porn of me, but I'm very aware of my middle aged, masculine/perceived male status, communication style, and demeanour when interacting with women in general and people younger than me specifically.

                  My solution is to be cautious about initiating interaction and to operate a strike policy, where if I overstep or behave inappropriately with someone, I apologise then cease interaction, as it would agonise me to make someone feel threatened or uncomfortable just because I'm bad at navigating parasocial or interpersonal stuff.

                  That means that I chat with people in those groups less than I might otherwise, which reduces the network effect and functionally means that I see less of them to boost, even when we're both on lewd/sex work fedi.

                  More generally speaking, I've definitely noticed, as you mention earlier in this thread, that people tend to like/boost/comment on lewd posts (especially images) less than on non-lewd ones.

                  I've also found that softcore/cheesecake pics get more interaction than hard kink/highly explicit images. (I have also observed patterns about gender presentation but that's a bit of a deep dive.)

                  Written posts seem less susceptible, but my erotic writing nonetheless mostly goes less viral than my Stong Opinions About Social Justice, for example.

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