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Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.

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  • lucien@toot.communityL lucien@toot.community

    @hpod16 the problem is that the same people that don't know will run into lots of UX issues when trying Fediverse. I know a few sadly...

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    @lucien @hpod16 I solution for the "Server choosing" problem can be https://fedidb.com/welcome

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    • xinit@mastodon.coffeeX xinit@mastodon.coffee

      @hpod16 I'd go out on a limb to suggest that "EU citizen only" means "no foreigners, no migrants"

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      @hpod16 @xinit well as everyone knows, the EU definitely doesn't have any problems with hate and division, it's exclusively a US problem. ๐Ÿ™„ (Also apparently Africa, Asia, and the rest of the Americas apparently do not matter, but I digress)

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      • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

        Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
        The European Commission likes to tell them. ๐Ÿ’œ ๐Ÿ˜‰

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        @hpod16 oh wow. They actually put their money where their mouths are ๐Ÿซถ

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        • nelson@wetdry.worldN nelson@wetdry.world

          @hpod16 was the fediverse created in europe? it's insane to say this when the technology itself is being mantained and expanded by people all around the world, including americans, asians, south americans, africans, etc.

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          @nelson Mastodon is developed in Germany, Peertube in France.

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          • gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.deG gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.de

            @nelson Mastodon is developed in Germany, Peertube in France.

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            @gelbphoenix misskey is developed in japan, sharkey is developed by people in north america, and both pixelfed and loops were made by a canadian.

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            • stooovie@mas.toS stooovie@mas.to

              @hpod16 ...and then propose a new proprietary network "W"

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              @stooovie @hpod16 To be clear: "W Social" isn't by the European Commission or the EU as a whole but by a startup and media platform called "We Don't Have Time".

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              • misswarcraft@mastodon.socialM misswarcraft@mastodon.social

                @hpod16 It means When I joined it said select a server. I picked one that said it was about Science, Books. etc. And it turned into just politics. If I want Politics I can go to X. I go to Insta for cats, and fun stuff, I keep hoping for more about EU on mastodon, but it is all Hate Trump, Hate America, Hate Jews. So I rarely come here. Anyway, will check in later I am a hopeful person. Peace! โ˜ฎ๏ธ

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                @MissWarcraft @hpod16 the server you're on is currently the largest one on Mastodon, and thus probably the hardest one to moderate. When you have time, have a look at smaller servers - there are loads of them now - and pick one with a policy you like.

                But Mastodon isn't really about hanging on your own server only. Use hashtags to find those conversations and users you want to follow. I rarely if ever look at the posts on my own server now, let alone the global feed (or whatever it is called).

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                • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                  @hpod16 @darkoneko

                  In this case I'm not against this kind of answering only half the question tbh.

                  My online world would be poorer without seeing people from all over the world. Including the cool kind of people from the US.

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                  @project1enigma @hpod16 @darkoneko This! Besides: Somebody on the Fediverse can also make โ€“ in theory โ€“ an instance which only allows "certified citizens" (whatever that means).

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                  • misswarcraft@mastodon.socialM misswarcraft@mastodon.social

                    @hpod16 It means When I joined it said select a server. I picked one that said it was about Science, Books. etc. And it turned into just politics. If I want Politics I can go to X. I go to Insta for cats, and fun stuff, I keep hoping for more about EU on mastodon, but it is all Hate Trump, Hate America, Hate Jews. So I rarely come here. Anyway, will check in later I am a hopeful person. Peace! โ˜ฎ๏ธ

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                    @MissWarcraft You aren't really locked into a server. (To be clear: Yes, you can't migrate your posts *right now* โ€“ it's being worked on โ€“ but you don't loose your network when switching servers as you can migrate you followers and followings.)

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                      @beemoh @gunchleoc @lucien @hpod16 May I suggest looking at #Hubzilla too? It seems to be getting at least as much attention, and even a few shillings of EU money(!). It is, as I understand, a fork of an early version of Friendica. It is a very versatile platform. ๐Ÿ™‚
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                      • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                        Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                        The European Commission likes to tell them. ๐Ÿ’œ ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                        @hpod16 I don't remember whether it was facebook, but once upon a time mentioning other networks on one of the big social websites would result in punishment
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                          @mycotropic You could look at https://github.com/nathanlesage/academics-on-mastodon

                          Sadly on GitHub.

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                          • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                            Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                            The European Commission likes to tell them. ๐Ÿ’œ ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                            @hpod16 @EUCommission How about updating the UE Commission web site to include a link to Mastodon then?
                            I know a link to Mastodon is present on the Social Media Channels page, but it would fit way better on the front page.

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                            • ltning@pleroma.anduin.netL ltning@pleroma.anduin.net
                              @beemoh @gunchleoc @lucien @hpod16 May I suggest looking at #Hubzilla too? It seems to be getting at least as much attention, and even a few shillings of EU money(!). It is, as I understand, a fork of an early version of Friendica. It is a very versatile platform. ๐Ÿ™‚
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                              @ltning Works well here, and i can host it myself on a shared host just using git. No bloody extras involved, it's plain php with a database. Mastodon at least can't do that.
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                                @GunChleoc @GunChleoc @ltning @Hannah Grace @beemoh @Lucien Maybe it's also worth taking a look at (streams) and Forte, both created and still maintained by the same guy who invented Friendica and Hubzilla.

                                In terms of privacy, security and self-moderation, they're at least on par with Hubzilla, and they're both nomadic like Hubzilla. UX-wise, they're more streamlined, especially permissions settings, and more geared towards today's Fediverse. Their learning curve is somewhere between Friendica and Hubzilla, but mostly because they default towards privacy rather than everything being public.

                                However, (streams) has only got a very very few public, open-registration servers and not a single working one in Europe at all anymore. It can't be crawled either, so FediDB, Fediverse Observer and FediIndex don't list its servers. And Forte doesn't have any public, open-registration servers whatsoever currently.

                                Maybe it's also important to know that their code is hosted by Codeberg in Berlin, but the developer is in Australia.

                                #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Facebook #FacebookAlternative #FacebookAlternatives #FacebookReplacement #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte
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                                • gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.deG gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.de

                                  @stooovie @hpod16 To be clear: "W Social" isn't by the European Commission or the EU as a whole but by a startup and media platform called "We Don't Have Time".

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                                  @gelbphoenix @hpod16 I didn't know that, thanks

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                                  • raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.placeR raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    @project1enigma @benny @lucien @hpod16 people often mistake familiarity for ease, like when windows sysadmins complain about having to type a command on linux because it's "hard to remember" right before listing off their 12 pages of instructions on which 10 menus you have to go down and pixel hunt or a 200 character long registry keys you need to search for in regedit to fix a basic setting.

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                                    @raptor85

                                    I shall rememberยน the phrase "people often mistake familiarity for ease".

                                    I have explained it (or tried to) to so many people in many word, and this summarises it neatly.

                                    Cheers!

                                    ยนi.e. "shamelessly steal"

                                    @project1enigma @benny @lucien @hpod16

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                                    • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                                      Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                                      The European Commission likes to tell them. ๐Ÿ’œ ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                      @hpod16
                                      yeah does it matter?...the EU is also over censorious AF

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                                      • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                                        Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                                        The European Commission likes to tell them. ๐Ÿ’œ ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                        @hpod16
                                        @JTensetti has been working on Nolta which is kind of like the Fediverse LinkedIn and dare I say it looks good so far!
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                                        • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                                          Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                                          The European Commission likes to tell them. ๐Ÿ’œ ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                          @hpod16 unexpectedly cool!

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