Edit: This is apparently one person's idea and may not make it into Tumbleweed: I would still love suggestions on which way to jump off it does happen
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@Canageek assuming that OpenSUSE really does do this… well, I feel your pain. I don't know what your needs are, but it is worth looking at Debian; they have indicated that they have no plans to integrate AI. Gentoo has taken a firm anti-AI stance.
Arch hasn't made any statements, but integration of AI would be against their whole ethos. By extension, Endeavor OS is also probably safe.
There are actually quite a few good Linux options that eschew AI. But depending on your use case, you could also give NetBSD a shot
@cocaine_owlbear I thought NetBSD had gone all in on AI?
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@Canageek I've been using MX Linux for years, and its ancestor MEPIS before that. Running XFCE with no systemd takes a little getting used to ... but it's a robust OS. It's also one that my limited skills are sufficient to maintain and upgrade.
@WanderingBeekeeper Yeah, I would ideally want something that keeps KDE as an option
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@Canageek I'm not trying to talk you into staying, but do keep in mind, that one openSUSE developer saying they're doing this, even if published on news.o.o, doesn't mean A) its going to be adopted by the project, or B) that it's going to ship in all products.
People like to assume that openSUSE is a big monolith that is all marching to the same tune.
It isn't.
@kalpa That is good to hear! I thought there would be some sort of consensus process before it went out as a press release
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@cocaine_owlbear I thought NetBSD had gone all in on AI?
@Canageek none of the BSDs have as far as code goes. FreeBSD uses it for documentation translation (and got bit in the ass for it), but NetBSD said no rather vocally.
NetBSD's New Policy: No Place for AI-Created Code
NetBSD bans AI-generated code to preserve clear copyright and meet licensing goals.
Linuxiac (linuxiac.com)
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@Canageek none of the BSDs have as far as code goes. FreeBSD uses it for documentation translation (and got bit in the ass for it), but NetBSD said no rather vocally.
NetBSD's New Policy: No Place for AI-Created Code
NetBSD bans AI-generated code to preserve clear copyright and meet licensing goals.
Linuxiac (linuxiac.com)
@cocaine_owlbear Thank you
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@WanderingBeekeeper Yeah, I would ideally want something that keeps KDE as an option
@Canageek MX also ships with KDE, XFCE is just the default
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@kalpa That is good to hear! I thought there would be some sort of consensus process before it went out as a press release
@Canageek Part of the issue is when people say #openSUSE, it's not particularly descriptive. They could be talking about #Leap, or #Tumbleweed, #MicroOS, or even some other variants, like #Aeon or #Kalpa, none of which have to really be in agreement with each other, for something to exist within the larger project, or ship them.
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@Canageek Part of the issue is when people say #openSUSE, it's not particularly descriptive. They could be talking about #Leap, or #Tumbleweed, #MicroOS, or even some other variants, like #Aeon or #Kalpa, none of which have to really be in agreement with each other, for something to exist within the larger project, or ship them.
@kalpa Ah, so it's more of a collective than a formal organization?
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@kalpa Ah, so it's more of a collective than a formal organization?
@Canageek I suppose that's a decent enough way to put it. I tend to prefer "anarcho-syndicalist commune" but collective works.
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@Canageek I suppose that's a decent enough way to put it. I tend to prefer "anarcho-syndicalist commune" but collective works.
"anarcho-syndicalist commune"
respect!
We take turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week... But all the decisions of that officer 'ave to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting... by a simple majority, in the case of purely internal affairs... but by a twothirds majority, in the case of more major
sorry, i couldn't resist 🤭
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@Canageek I suppose that's a decent enough way to put it. I tend to prefer "anarcho-syndicalist commune" but collective works.
@kalpa @Canageek
From what I’ve read, openSUSE is an association that acts as a link between SUSE and the developers and creators of the distributions that form part of the openSUSE project.
And from what I’ve read, the Aeon distribution is not part of openSUSE.
I don’t know whether this is true or not, regarding both the first and the second points.
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Edit: This is apparently one person's idea and may not make it into Tumbleweed: I would still love suggestions on which way to jump off it does happen
"For openSUSE Linux they are looking at developing an AI-powered onboarding experience for users to deal with "new openSUSE users face a steep learning curve navigating distribution-specific tools like zypper, YaST, Btrfs/Snapper, and systemd." "
Guess it is time for me to find a new linux distro. Recommendations welcome.
@Canageek What is the source of this information please? The only thing I can find is https://www.phoronix.com/news/GSoC-2026-Exciting-Projects Which is a student doing the Google summer of code said they had an idea for such a project.
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Edit: This is apparently one person's idea and may not make it into Tumbleweed: I would still love suggestions on which way to jump off it does happen
"For openSUSE Linux they are looking at developing an AI-powered onboarding experience for users to deal with "new openSUSE users face a steep learning curve navigating distribution-specific tools like zypper, YaST, Btrfs/Snapper, and systemd." "
Guess it is time for me to find a new linux distro. Recommendations welcome.
@Canageek oh ffs, let this idea die
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Edit: This is apparently one person's idea and may not make it into Tumbleweed: I would still love suggestions on which way to jump off it does happen
"For openSUSE Linux they are looking at developing an AI-powered onboarding experience for users to deal with "new openSUSE users face a steep learning curve navigating distribution-specific tools like zypper, YaST, Btrfs/Snapper, and systemd." "
Guess it is time for me to find a new linux distro. Recommendations welcome.
@Canageek The tools mentioned are pretty great. It sounds a bit like a baby/bathwater situation.
I mean yes, it's a bit ridiculous / trendy, but of all the bad ideas about using LLMs, using them to answer questions or produce summaries on a specific set of documents and information is one the most reasonable ones. If rather than saying "just read the docs at doc.opensuse.org" you can offer a new user a way to query them using natural language, i can see the draw.
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Edit: This is apparently one person's idea and may not make it into Tumbleweed: I would still love suggestions on which way to jump off it does happen
"For openSUSE Linux they are looking at developing an AI-powered onboarding experience for users to deal with "new openSUSE users face a steep learning curve navigating distribution-specific tools like zypper, YaST, Btrfs/Snapper, and systemd." "
Guess it is time for me to find a new linux distro. Recommendations welcome.
gentoo has no-LLM policy. however, it's unavoidable for the packages themselves, as well as the kernel
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@Canageek What is the source of this information please? The only thing I can find is https://www.phoronix.com/news/GSoC-2026-Exciting-Projects Which is a student doing the Google summer of code said they had an idea for such a project.
@Canageek I found this https://github.com/openSUSE/mentoring/issues/259 It isn't an LLM. It is a locally running SLM.
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@Canageek I found this https://github.com/openSUSE/mentoring/issues/259 It isn't an LLM. It is a locally running SLM.
@Ooze That has very little to do with how much I trust it and refuse to use software that has it
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gentoo has no-LLM policy. however, it's unavoidable for the packages themselves, as well as the kernel
@xarvos Thank you
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@Canageek The tools mentioned are pretty great. It sounds a bit like a baby/bathwater situation.
I mean yes, it's a bit ridiculous / trendy, but of all the bad ideas about using LLMs, using them to answer questions or produce summaries on a specific set of documents and information is one the most reasonable ones. If rather than saying "just read the docs at doc.opensuse.org" you can offer a new user a way to query them using natural language, i can see the draw.
@axx until it hallucinates and tells you to do something that breaks your system
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@Canageek What is the source of this information please? The only thing I can find is https://www.phoronix.com/news/GSoC-2026-Exciting-Projects Which is a student doing the Google summer of code said they had an idea for such a project.
@Ooze That is where I got it from: I thought Google summer of code projects were like when an academic brings on an undergraduate, they work on a project designed by the supervisor?
