Edit: This is apparently one person's idea and may not make it into Tumbleweed: I would still love suggestions on which way to jump off it does happen
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@kalpa That is good to hear! I thought there would be some sort of consensus process before it went out as a press release
@Canageek Part of the issue is when people say #openSUSE, it's not particularly descriptive. They could be talking about #Leap, or #Tumbleweed, #MicroOS, or even some other variants, like #Aeon or #Kalpa, none of which have to really be in agreement with each other, for something to exist within the larger project, or ship them.
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@Canageek Part of the issue is when people say #openSUSE, it's not particularly descriptive. They could be talking about #Leap, or #Tumbleweed, #MicroOS, or even some other variants, like #Aeon or #Kalpa, none of which have to really be in agreement with each other, for something to exist within the larger project, or ship them.
@kalpa Ah, so it's more of a collective than a formal organization?
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@kalpa Ah, so it's more of a collective than a formal organization?
@Canageek I suppose that's a decent enough way to put it. I tend to prefer "anarcho-syndicalist commune" but collective works.
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@Canageek I suppose that's a decent enough way to put it. I tend to prefer "anarcho-syndicalist commune" but collective works.
"anarcho-syndicalist commune"
respect!
We take turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week... But all the decisions of that officer 'ave to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting... by a simple majority, in the case of purely internal affairs... but by a twothirds majority, in the case of more major
sorry, i couldn't resist 🤭
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@Canageek I suppose that's a decent enough way to put it. I tend to prefer "anarcho-syndicalist commune" but collective works.
@kalpa @Canageek
From what I’ve read, openSUSE is an association that acts as a link between SUSE and the developers and creators of the distributions that form part of the openSUSE project.
And from what I’ve read, the Aeon distribution is not part of openSUSE.
I don’t know whether this is true or not, regarding both the first and the second points.
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Edit: This is apparently one person's idea and may not make it into Tumbleweed: I would still love suggestions on which way to jump off it does happen
"For openSUSE Linux they are looking at developing an AI-powered onboarding experience for users to deal with "new openSUSE users face a steep learning curve navigating distribution-specific tools like zypper, YaST, Btrfs/Snapper, and systemd." "
Guess it is time for me to find a new linux distro. Recommendations welcome.
@Canageek What is the source of this information please? The only thing I can find is https://www.phoronix.com/news/GSoC-2026-Exciting-Projects Which is a student doing the Google summer of code said they had an idea for such a project.
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Edit: This is apparently one person's idea and may not make it into Tumbleweed: I would still love suggestions on which way to jump off it does happen
"For openSUSE Linux they are looking at developing an AI-powered onboarding experience for users to deal with "new openSUSE users face a steep learning curve navigating distribution-specific tools like zypper, YaST, Btrfs/Snapper, and systemd." "
Guess it is time for me to find a new linux distro. Recommendations welcome.
@Canageek oh ffs, let this idea die
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Edit: This is apparently one person's idea and may not make it into Tumbleweed: I would still love suggestions on which way to jump off it does happen
"For openSUSE Linux they are looking at developing an AI-powered onboarding experience for users to deal with "new openSUSE users face a steep learning curve navigating distribution-specific tools like zypper, YaST, Btrfs/Snapper, and systemd." "
Guess it is time for me to find a new linux distro. Recommendations welcome.
@Canageek The tools mentioned are pretty great. It sounds a bit like a baby/bathwater situation.
I mean yes, it's a bit ridiculous / trendy, but of all the bad ideas about using LLMs, using them to answer questions or produce summaries on a specific set of documents and information is one the most reasonable ones. If rather than saying "just read the docs at doc.opensuse.org" you can offer a new user a way to query them using natural language, i can see the draw.
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Edit: This is apparently one person's idea and may not make it into Tumbleweed: I would still love suggestions on which way to jump off it does happen
"For openSUSE Linux they are looking at developing an AI-powered onboarding experience for users to deal with "new openSUSE users face a steep learning curve navigating distribution-specific tools like zypper, YaST, Btrfs/Snapper, and systemd." "
Guess it is time for me to find a new linux distro. Recommendations welcome.
gentoo has no-LLM policy. however, it's unavoidable for the packages themselves, as well as the kernel
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@Canageek What is the source of this information please? The only thing I can find is https://www.phoronix.com/news/GSoC-2026-Exciting-Projects Which is a student doing the Google summer of code said they had an idea for such a project.
@Canageek I found this https://github.com/openSUSE/mentoring/issues/259 It isn't an LLM. It is a locally running SLM.
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@Canageek I found this https://github.com/openSUSE/mentoring/issues/259 It isn't an LLM. It is a locally running SLM.
@Ooze That has very little to do with how much I trust it and refuse to use software that has it
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gentoo has no-LLM policy. however, it's unavoidable for the packages themselves, as well as the kernel
@xarvos Thank you
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@Canageek The tools mentioned are pretty great. It sounds a bit like a baby/bathwater situation.
I mean yes, it's a bit ridiculous / trendy, but of all the bad ideas about using LLMs, using them to answer questions or produce summaries on a specific set of documents and information is one the most reasonable ones. If rather than saying "just read the docs at doc.opensuse.org" you can offer a new user a way to query them using natural language, i can see the draw.
@axx until it hallucinates and tells you to do something that breaks your system
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@Canageek What is the source of this information please? The only thing I can find is https://www.phoronix.com/news/GSoC-2026-Exciting-Projects Which is a student doing the Google summer of code said they had an idea for such a project.
@Ooze That is where I got it from: I thought Google summer of code projects were like when an academic brings on an undergraduate, they work on a project designed by the supervisor?
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Edit: This is apparently one person's idea and may not make it into Tumbleweed: I would still love suggestions on which way to jump off it does happen
"For openSUSE Linux they are looking at developing an AI-powered onboarding experience for users to deal with "new openSUSE users face a steep learning curve navigating distribution-specific tools like zypper, YaST, Btrfs/Snapper, and systemd." "
Guess it is time for me to find a new linux distro. Recommendations welcome.
@Canageek just rawdog arch atp.
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@Ooze That has very little to do with how much I trust it and refuse to use software that has it
@Canageek It should. It isn't a thing built by stealing other people's work as it uses only the SUSE docs as its data set.
It is never going to use a giant data centre because in runs locally and is aimed at new users not businesses.
This kind of single purpose SLM is the only use of this technology that I would consider ever thinking about using. And it will probably be one of the very few uses of this tech which will be around after the bubble bursts.
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@Canageek It should. It isn't a thing built by stealing other people's work as it uses only the SUSE docs as its data set.
It is never going to use a giant data centre because in runs locally and is aimed at new users not businesses.
This kind of single purpose SLM is the only use of this technology that I would consider ever thinking about using. And it will probably be one of the very few uses of this tech which will be around after the bubble bursts.
@Ooze It's still going to hallucinate and lie to users and tell them to do incorrect and unsafe things, it's that's just part and parcel of how statistical models work.
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@Ooze It's still going to hallucinate and lie to users and tell them to do incorrect and unsafe things, it's that's just part and parcel of how statistical models work.
@Canageek I am not saying it is perfect. There is also the issue of the psychological effects on humans of becoming dependent on these things.
I am suggesting that we can be discerning and weigh the risks depending on the variables.
Software can't lie or hallucinate as it has no intent or perception. These are just words their developers use to avoid having to say that they wrote very bad software.
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@Canageek I am not saying it is perfect. There is also the issue of the psychological effects on humans of becoming dependent on these things.
I am suggesting that we can be discerning and weigh the risks depending on the variables.
Software can't lie or hallucinate as it has no intent or perception. These are just words their developers use to avoid having to say that they wrote very bad software.
@Ooze I just don't think the technology is worth anything and don't trust any group that would willingly use it as a result.
I'm not quite willing to move to OpenBSD due to LLM generated code in the kernel yet, but I understand the people I know who are doing so
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@Ooze I just don't think the technology is worth anything and don't trust any group that would willingly use it as a result.
I'm not quite willing to move to OpenBSD due to LLM generated code in the kernel yet, but I understand the people I know who are doing so
@Canageek I agree. I would look for another distro if SUSE started putting machine generated code in.
But I do think there are applications for this that are useful. e.g. medical image processing https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/ai-tool-can-analyse-complex-cancer-images-rapidly-offering-potential-to-personalise-treatment
