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  • kupac@functional.cafeK kupac@functional.cafe

    @IngridHbn
    As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.

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    @kupac @IngridHbn I'm skeptical of this as well. I've never seen a "torn mantle" on a snail, and I'm a biologist too.

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    • troler@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @IngridHbn It's not he or her, snails are hermophrodites. They are male and female at the same time!

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        #43

        @SophiaFree Yes, move it on a bit. @IngridHbn

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        • waldschnecke@chaos.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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          #44

          @IngridHbn "Place in direction it was heading"

          *places it in the other direction, still gets a green checkmark*

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          • ingridhbn@mastodon.onlineI ingridhbn@mastodon.online

            @synfinatic ????? Do you really hurt animals intentionally?

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            @IngridHbn @synfinatic I did once capture a snail and imprison in inside an electric cage. I wanted to know how much voltage is required to make a line they will not cross but won't actually kill them.

            Its three volts. That's all. Surprisingly low. Once I had that, easy enough to put some strips of copper tape around my lettuce and build the world's tiniest electric fence.

            (Then the bloody leaf-miners ruined half of it instead.)

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            • kupac@functional.cafeK kupac@functional.cafe

              @IngridHbn
              As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.

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              @kupac @IngridHbn The apparent high production cost of the image makes it appear trustworthy. Good illustrations, professional seeming graphic design. But I see other commenters pointing out it is likely AI generated based on the origin. It's often impossible to tell these days. Even the slop-slingers have access to models good enough pass a close inspection.

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              • troler@mastodon.onlineT troler@mastodon.online

                @IngridHbn It's not he or her, snails are hermophrodites. They are male and female at the same time!

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                @troler yes someone told me already. I had forgotten.

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                • 0 08956495@infosec.exchange

                  @irina @ianrogers @IngridHbn and this is how AI slop starts creeping into the fediverse

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                  Step 4 made it obvious to me that it was slop. AI can draw the opposite of what it means and be completely straight-faced about being helpful.

                  @08956495 @irina @ianrogers @IngridHbn

                  Link Preview Image
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                    #49

                    @IngridHbn Thank you for sharing this! I have pet giant African landsnails and the way I explain it is the shell is hard, like your fingernails, but it would hurt if someone picked you up by your fingernails too because they're connected to delicate tissue. I'd also add that sometimes touching the shell isn't enough - some of my snails are more cautious than others and retract immediately, whereas with some of the more bold ones you have to (gently!) tap repeatedly. Also they're less likely to go back in if they're eating something they like. It really does show that even creatures as simple as snails have distinct personalities and preferences

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                      #50

                      @IngridHbn I am totally here for this content.

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                      • martalatour@muenster.imM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #51

                        @IngridHbn Source??? AI???

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                        • ingridhbn@mastodon.onlineI ingridhbn@mastodon.online

                          @08956495 it’s from a Belgian nature organisation

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                          @IngridHbn @08956495 as far as i can tell, the original source is this page: facebook link - it seems the entire page is ai generated stuff like this. if you did get it from a reputable 'belgian nature organisation', they got duped too.

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                            @IngridHbn It's true that you can cause mantle collapse in a snail by picking it up too roughly, but this image itself is clearly AI slop.

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                            • kupac@functional.cafeK kupac@functional.cafe

                              @IngridHbn
                              As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.

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                              #54
                              @kupac @IngridHbn on the one hand this reply matches my experience, but on the other i've noticed a lot of normies are much, much more hasty and brutal with things who may benefit from this
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                              • irina@critter.cafeI irina@critter.cafe

                                @ianrogers @IngridHbn it absolutely is AI generated. the original source is a facebook ai-generated "nature" page.

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                                #55

                                @irina thank you for the information. I unboosted it. That's why we should have always sources.
                                @ianrogers @IngridHbn

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                                • kupac@functional.cafeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @petealexharris
                                  But if you just suddenly lift them off the ground, they think they're flying *really fast*!
                                  @IngridHbn

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                                  • duncanmsussex@mas.toD duncanmsussex@mas.to

                                    @IngridHbn I feel bad for all the snails I've picked up the wrong way! I think they generally retracted, but still...

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                                    @DuncanMSussex If they didn't crash, it was all fine and correct! Not all snails "glue" so much to a road as this AI image suggests. 😉
                                    @IngridHbn

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                                    • pikario@mastodon.gamedev.placeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @IngridHbn it's AI, sorry if it's real advice but I can't be sure so I'm not trusting this image

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                                      • ingridhbn@mastodon.onlineI ingridhbn@mastodon.online

                                        @08956495 it’s from a Belgian nature organisation

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                                        @IngridHbn why can't you name them? Why can't you give us a source link?
                                        Because people here don't boost #AISlop?!

                                        @08956495

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                                        • matsuzine@hachyderm.ioM matsuzine@hachyderm.io

                                          @IngridHbn This is why I'm on mastodon.

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                                          @matsuzine @IngridHbn to get Ai slop???

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