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  • synfinatic@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @IngridHbn sorry, but where do I use the salt shaker?

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    • 0 08956495@infosec.exchange

      @IngridHbn hi Ingrid, in the interest of transparency could you indicate which platform did you use to generate this image or credit the artist? It very much looks like the info graphics some AIs are putting out. It would be much appreciated if AI is properly tagged on mastodon.

      jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @08956495 @IngridHbn

      A reverse image search found two Facebook posts, both from any 12 to 13 hours ago.

      One of identical. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18GVUfbX2J/

      The other is almost identical but stylized differently. https://www.facebook.com/share/1CNx3QkoGW/

      The search didn't turn up any earlier versions of that infographic.

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      • matsuzine@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @IngridHbn This is why I'm on mastodon.

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        • kupac@functional.cafeK This user is from outside of this forum
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          @IngridHbn
          As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.

          kupac@functional.cafeK ubi@ecoevo.socialU Q apophis@yourwalls.todayA naturemc@mastodon.onlineN 6 Replies Last reply
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          • kupac@functional.cafeK kupac@functional.cafe

            @IngridHbn
            As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.

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            @IngridHbn
            If you really want to hurt a snail, you may be able to break its mantle (never seen it actually happen), but the crack on the foot looks ridiculous.

            Tangential fun fact: snails intentionally stab each other during mating. Look up "love dart"!

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            • synfinatic@infosec.exchangeS synfinatic@infosec.exchange

              @IngridHbn sorry, but where do I use the salt shaker?

              ingridhbn@mastodon.onlineI This user is from outside of this forum
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              @synfinatic ????? Do you really hurt animals intentionally?

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              • 0 08956495@infosec.exchange

                @IngridHbn hi Ingrid, in the interest of transparency could you indicate which platform did you use to generate this image or credit the artist? It very much looks like the info graphics some AIs are putting out. It would be much appreciated if AI is properly tagged on mastodon.

                ingridhbn@mastodon.onlineI This user is from outside of this forum
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                @08956495 it’s from a Belgian nature organisation

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                • radaufheber@troet.cafeR radaufheber@troet.cafe

                  @2ndNatureDev @IngridHbn or "her+him"? bcause they are both.

                  ingridhbn@mastodon.onlineI This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @radaufheber @2ndNatureDev oh yes of course

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                  • lydiaconwell@todon.nlL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @IngridHbn But why do you need to pick up a snail only to put it back in the direction it was heading?

                    Also the graphic shows the snail being turned around to face the other way.

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                    • kupac@functional.cafeK kupac@functional.cafe

                      @IngridHbn
                      As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.

                      ubi@ecoevo.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @kupac @IngridHbn I'm skeptical of this as well. I've never seen a "torn mantle" on a snail, and I'm a biologist too.

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                      • troler@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @IngridHbn It's not he or her, snails are hermophrodites. They are male and female at the same time!

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                        • lydiaconwell@todon.nlL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @SophiaFree Yes, move it on a bit. @IngridHbn

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                            @IngridHbn "Place in direction it was heading"

                            *places it in the other direction, still gets a green checkmark*

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                            • ingridhbn@mastodon.onlineI ingridhbn@mastodon.online

                              @synfinatic ????? Do you really hurt animals intentionally?

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                              @IngridHbn @synfinatic I did once capture a snail and imprison in inside an electric cage. I wanted to know how much voltage is required to make a line they will not cross but won't actually kill them.

                              Its three volts. That's all. Surprisingly low. Once I had that, easy enough to put some strips of copper tape around my lettuce and build the world's tiniest electric fence.

                              (Then the bloody leaf-miners ruined half of it instead.)

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                              • kupac@functional.cafeK kupac@functional.cafe

                                @IngridHbn
                                As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.

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                                @kupac @IngridHbn The apparent high production cost of the image makes it appear trustworthy. Good illustrations, professional seeming graphic design. But I see other commenters pointing out it is likely AI generated based on the origin. It's often impossible to tell these days. Even the slop-slingers have access to models good enough pass a close inspection.

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                                • troler@mastodon.onlineT troler@mastodon.online

                                  @IngridHbn It's not he or her, snails are hermophrodites. They are male and female at the same time!

                                  ingridhbn@mastodon.onlineI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @troler yes someone told me already. I had forgotten.

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                                    @irina @ianrogers @IngridHbn and this is how AI slop starts creeping into the fediverse

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                                    Step 4 made it obvious to me that it was slop. AI can draw the opposite of what it means and be completely straight-faced about being helpful.

                                    @08956495 @irina @ianrogers @IngridHbn

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                                      @IngridHbn Thank you for sharing this! I have pet giant African landsnails and the way I explain it is the shell is hard, like your fingernails, but it would hurt if someone picked you up by your fingernails too because they're connected to delicate tissue. I'd also add that sometimes touching the shell isn't enough - some of my snails are more cautious than others and retract immediately, whereas with some of the more bold ones you have to (gently!) tap repeatedly. Also they're less likely to go back in if they're eating something they like. It really does show that even creatures as simple as snails have distinct personalities and preferences

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                                        @IngridHbn I am totally here for this content.

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                                          @IngridHbn Source??? AI???

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