Massive Attack mailing list: …Massive Attack website: … Story on Massive Attack Instagram account: we're going on EU tour, please check our whatsapp community for updates

[hdv@front-end.social]

Massive Attack mailing list: …
Massive Attack website: … 
Story on Massive Attack Instagram account: we're going on EU tour, please check our whatsapp community for updates

What do you think causes non-tech people to choose walled, algorithmic gardens ran by right wing extremists over their own open, public websites?

What can change this? #indieweb

[moritzglantz@mastodon.social]

@hdv Ease of use and the network effect + “no cost”. “Everybody is there”.

They should have RSS feeds for this.

[hdv@front-end.social]

@MoritzGlantz but i wonder if everyone wants to be there, it's a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts

[moritzglantz@mastodon.social]

@hdv Good question. If you asked people if they wanted to be on a network that is free and that does not manipulate them, they may agree. But only if everybody else is there too…

[hdv@front-end.social]

I'm thinking:

1. better and easier to deploy authoring tools
2. campaigning news websites / music venues to make an effort to find links to open sources before they link to walled gardens
3. campaigning record labels / artists to post outside walled gardens
4. campaigning search engines and chatbots to prefer links to outside walled gardens

[moritzglantz@mastodon.social]

@hdv That is why I am a big supporter of the digital independence day, where people with some knowledge teach others how to leave places like that.
And I have been thinking about building alternatives. The reality is most of the time: they already exist, but nobody knows/cares.

#did (https://di.day/ German)

[axeleroy@toot.community]

@hdv I find it particularly ironic (and sad) given the band's political stance and previous issue with Meta following the Cambridge Analytica scandal.

[mdubbelm@mastodon.social]

@hdv ease of (perceived) visibility

[decibyte@social.data.coop]

@hdv even more disappointing from a political act like Massive Attack. It seems the tour is managed by Live Nation which is equally disappointing

[sgtpepere@ludosphere.fr]

@hdv If no one complains about it, it won't change.

Maybe they suppose that their website / mailing list is useless and that everything is working perfectly. Maybe no one in the band is charged of getting in touch with the audience.

[kim@social.gfsc.studio]

@hdv heres my take https://gfsc.community/whats-happening-where-you-live-re-introducing-placecal/

[clew@ecoevo.social]

two totally uninformed guesses:

they don't get immediate feedback from mailing lists, website

they hired a professonal media/PR team that thinks of Instagram as "real" and websites not

Seems to me that good multi-posting tools would help a lot, though the walled gardens are going to try and make them hard

@hdv

[hdv@front-end.social]

@kim thanks for sharing, love it!

[kim@social.gfsc.studio]

@hdv ahh thankyou!