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  • moritzglantz@mastodon.socialM moritzglantz@mastodon.social

    @hdv Ease of use and the network effect + “no cost”. “Everybody is there”.

    They should have RSS feeds for this.

    hdv@front-end.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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    @MoritzGlantz but i wonder if everyone wants to be there, it's a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts

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    • hdv@front-end.socialH hdv@front-end.social

      @MoritzGlantz but i wonder if everyone wants to be there, it's a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts

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      @hdv Good question. If you asked people if they wanted to be on a network that is free and that does not manipulate them, they may agree. But only if everybody else is there too…

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      • hdv@front-end.socialH hdv@front-end.social

        Massive Attack mailing list: …
        Massive Attack website: … 
        Story on Massive Attack Instagram account: we're going on EU tour, please check our whatsapp community for updates

        What do you think causes non-tech people to choose walled, algorithmic gardens ran by right wing extremists over their own open, public websites?

        What can change this? #indieweb

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        I'm thinking:

        1. better and easier to deploy authoring tools
        2. campaigning news websites / music venues to make an effort to find links to open sources before they link to walled gardens
        3. campaigning record labels / artists to post outside walled gardens
        4. campaigning search engines and chatbots to prefer links to outside walled gardens

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        • moritzglantz@mastodon.socialM moritzglantz@mastodon.social

          @hdv Good question. If you asked people if they wanted to be on a network that is free and that does not manipulate them, they may agree. But only if everybody else is there too…

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          #6

          @hdv That is why I am a big supporter of the digital independence day, where people with some knowledge teach others how to leave places like that.
          And I have been thinking about building alternatives. The reality is most of the time: they already exist, but nobody knows/cares.

          #did (https://di.day/ German)

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          • hdv@front-end.socialH hdv@front-end.social

            Massive Attack mailing list: …
            Massive Attack website: … 
            Story on Massive Attack Instagram account: we're going on EU tour, please check our whatsapp community for updates

            What do you think causes non-tech people to choose walled, algorithmic gardens ran by right wing extremists over their own open, public websites?

            What can change this? #indieweb

            axeleroy@toot.communityA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @hdv I find it particularly ironic (and sad) given the band's political stance and previous issue with Meta following the Cambridge Analytica scandal.

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            • hdv@front-end.socialH hdv@front-end.social

              Massive Attack mailing list: …
              Massive Attack website: … 
              Story on Massive Attack Instagram account: we're going on EU tour, please check our whatsapp community for updates

              What do you think causes non-tech people to choose walled, algorithmic gardens ran by right wing extremists over their own open, public websites?

              What can change this? #indieweb

              mdubbelm@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #8

              @hdv ease of (perceived) visibility

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              • hdv@front-end.socialH hdv@front-end.social

                Massive Attack mailing list: …
                Massive Attack website: … 
                Story on Massive Attack Instagram account: we're going on EU tour, please check our whatsapp community for updates

                What do you think causes non-tech people to choose walled, algorithmic gardens ran by right wing extremists over their own open, public websites?

                What can change this? #indieweb

                decibyte@social.data.coopD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #9

                @hdv even more disappointing from a political act like Massive Attack. It seems the tour is managed by Live Nation which is equally disappointing 😕

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                • hdv@front-end.socialH hdv@front-end.social

                  Massive Attack mailing list: …
                  Massive Attack website: … 
                  Story on Massive Attack Instagram account: we're going on EU tour, please check our whatsapp community for updates

                  What do you think causes non-tech people to choose walled, algorithmic gardens ran by right wing extremists over their own open, public websites?

                  What can change this? #indieweb

                  sgtpepere@ludosphere.frS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @hdv If no one complains about it, it won't change.

                  Maybe they suppose that their website / mailing list is useless and that everything is working perfectly. Maybe no one in the band is charged of getting in touch with the audience.

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                  • hdv@front-end.socialH hdv@front-end.social

                    Massive Attack mailing list: …
                    Massive Attack website: … 
                    Story on Massive Attack Instagram account: we're going on EU tour, please check our whatsapp community for updates

                    What do you think causes non-tech people to choose walled, algorithmic gardens ran by right wing extremists over their own open, public websites?

                    What can change this? #indieweb

                    kim@social.gfsc.studioK This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @hdv heres my take https://gfsc.community/whats-happening-where-you-live-re-introducing-placecal/

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                    • hdv@front-end.socialH hdv@front-end.social

                      Massive Attack mailing list: …
                      Massive Attack website: … 
                      Story on Massive Attack Instagram account: we're going on EU tour, please check our whatsapp community for updates

                      What do you think causes non-tech people to choose walled, algorithmic gardens ran by right wing extremists over their own open, public websites?

                      What can change this? #indieweb

                      clew@ecoevo.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #12

                      two totally uninformed guesses:

                      they don't get immediate feedback from mailing lists, website

                      they hired a professonal media/PR team that thinks of Instagram as "real" and websites not

                      Seems to me that good multi-posting tools would help a lot, though the walled gardens are going to try and make them hard

                      @hdv

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                      • kim@social.gfsc.studioK kim@social.gfsc.studio

                        @hdv heres my take https://gfsc.community/whats-happening-where-you-live-re-introducing-placecal/

                        hdv@front-end.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @kim thanks for sharing, love it!

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                        • hdv@front-end.socialH hdv@front-end.social

                          @kim thanks for sharing, love it!

                          kim@social.gfsc.studioK This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @hdv ahh thankyou!

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