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  • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

    @alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs. πŸ‘€

    miclgael@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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    miclgael@hachyderm.io
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    @theorangetheme ha! thats so good.

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    • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

      @alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs. πŸ‘€

      alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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      alice@lgbtqia.space
      wrote last edited by
      #12

      @theorangetheme I'd love to make a bot that just hits all the big LLMs and corporate "help" bots, and simply shuffles their answers to each other randomly, then randomly up or downvotes the replies.

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      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

        πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

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        #13

        @alice bonus points if you have a #MeatProxy !

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        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

          The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

          Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

          Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

          Using VPNs set to different locations.

          Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

          Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

          If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

          miclgael@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #14

          @alice when i have to use a web app to order food, e.g. CoolBurgz (fictional) i will always put my email as e.g.

          coolburgz@coolburgz.coolburgz

          usually counts as valid.

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          • miclgael@hachyderm.ioM miclgael@hachyderm.io

            @alice when i have to use a web app to order food, e.g. CoolBurgz (fictional) i will always put my email as e.g.

            coolburgz@coolburgz.coolburgz

            usually counts as valid.

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            #15

            @miclgael @alice if it doesn’t like that, .lol is a valid TLD. πŸ˜†

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              @theorangetheme I'd love to make a bot that just hits all the big LLMs and corporate "help" bots, and simply shuffles their answers to each other randomly, then randomly up or downvotes the replies.

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              #16

              @alice @theorangetheme I once built a fuzz testing tool that "randomly" shuffled input around and tested it against things. "does my input validation survive utterly batshit inputs?"

              Feeding the inputs through something like that would make sure they can't cache answers.

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              • bytex64@awesome.gardenB bytex64@awesome.garden

                @miclgael @alice if it doesn’t like that, .lol is a valid TLD. πŸ˜†

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                #17

                @bytex64 @alice maybe i'll just go ahead and register coolburgz@omg.lol haha

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                  Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                  Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                  Using VPNs set to different locations.

                  Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                  Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                  If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                  vantiss@social.treehouse.systemsV This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #18

                  @alice

                  a fair bit of the advice in here seems really good, but from what I know, AdNauseam isn't really worth using over just uBO

                  at least as of when I last looked into it a couple years ago: it uses more resources on your machine, doesn't really make any significant difference for the companies, and the high volume of "clicks" from you just makes you far more trackable since no normal person browsing would do so

                  also, I think it might be worth editing the last point to say "hopefully none of you are using LLMs, but if you're someone who does..." 🩡

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                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                    The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                    Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                    Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                    Using VPNs set to different locations.

                    Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                    Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                    If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                    mikro2nd@indieweb.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #19

                    @alice "Fold your punch cards"! πŸ˜ƒ

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                      Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                      Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                      Using VPNs set to different locations.

                      Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                      Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                      If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                      aj@gts.sadauskas.id.auA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #20

                      @alice NULL is also a good answer for when you don't want to give out a particular personal detail.

                      Aside from phone, date of birth, and email, most of the time the front end form fields will accept NULL as an answer.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_(SQL)

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                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                        πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

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                        #21

                        Sorry accidentally poisoned cuzco instead


                        #With-the-poison #the-poison-for-cuzco #the-poison-made-specifically-for-cuzco
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                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                          The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                          Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                          Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                          Using VPNs set to different locations.

                          Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                          Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                          If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                          phloggen@expressional.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #22

                          @alice

                          We should tax corporations by the GigaByte of storage the own.

                          It doesn't matter what they use it for, it should have a tangible yearly cost, to make them think about how much they store.

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                          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                            The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                            Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                            Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                            Using VPNs set to different locations.

                            Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                            Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                            If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                            agturcz@circumstances.runA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #23

                            @alice Enter your name as [object Object] and let them try to find a bug.

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                            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                              πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

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                              #24

                              @alice a friend of mine changed his middle name to 'undefined', it caused so many problems he had to change it back within a year.

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                              • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

                                @alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs. πŸ‘€

                                asprinkleofsage@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @theorangetheme @alice lol somebody has a toddler

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                                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                  The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                                  Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                                  Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                                  Using VPNs set to different locations.

                                  Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                                  Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                                  If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                                  badrihippo@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  badrihippo@fosstodon.org
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                                  #26

                                  @alice thank you! I've always wondered whether to put random made-up data but hearing the reasoning and logic spelt out like this is convincing me to actually start. Especially commonsense things like "mess with the fields that don't matter in their service to you"

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                                  • themightygit@mstdn.socialT themightygit@mstdn.social

                                    @alice a friend of mine changed his middle name to 'undefined', it caused so many problems he had to change it back within a year.

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                                    #27

                                    @TheMightyGit @alice
                                    Reminds me of someone who had the last name "Null" and had similar problems.

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                                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                      The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                                      Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                                      Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                                      Using VPNs set to different locations.

                                      Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                                      Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                                      If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                                      penguinrebellion@tldr.nettime.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      penguinrebellion@tldr.nettime.org
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #28

                                      @alice

                                      Wrt #PII, It might be a good idea to avoid entering easily identifiable trash data, and use generators instead. E.g.:

                                      • FauxID
                                      • Fake Name Generator
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                                      • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

                                        @alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs. πŸ‘€

                                        saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #29

                                        @theorangetheme @alice

                                        'and then?'

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                                          #30

                                          @neoluddite @aj @alice Just wondered what might happen if enough self-hosting people were to add an zero opacity image tag on their public indexable pages illustrating a d*ckbutt and having alt attribute set to Donald J. Trump.

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