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  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

    The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

    Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

    Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

    Using VPNs set to different locations.

    Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

    Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

    If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

    mikro2nd@indieweb.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
    mikro2nd@indieweb.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
    mikro2nd@indieweb.social
    wrote last edited by
    #19

    @alice "Fold your punch cards"! πŸ˜ƒ

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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

      Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

      Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

      Using VPNs set to different locations.

      Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

      Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

      If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

      aj@gts.sadauskas.id.auA This user is from outside of this forum
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      aj@gts.sadauskas.id.au
      wrote last edited by
      #20

      @alice NULL is also a good answer for when you don't want to give out a particular personal detail.

      Aside from phone, date of birth, and email, most of the time the front end form fields will accept NULL as an answer.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_(SQL)

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      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

        πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

        gabboman@gabboman.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
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        gabboman@gabboman.xyz
        wrote last edited by
        #21

        Sorry accidentally poisoned cuzco instead


        #With-the-poison #the-poison-for-cuzco #the-poison-made-specifically-for-cuzco
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        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

          The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

          Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

          Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

          Using VPNs set to different locations.

          Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

          Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

          If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

          phloggen@expressional.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
          phloggen@expressional.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
          phloggen@expressional.social
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          #22

          @alice

          We should tax corporations by the GigaByte of storage the own.

          It doesn't matter what they use it for, it should have a tangible yearly cost, to make them think about how much they store.

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          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

            The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

            Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

            Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

            Using VPNs set to different locations.

            Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

            Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

            If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

            agturcz@circumstances.runA This user is from outside of this forum
            agturcz@circumstances.runA This user is from outside of this forum
            agturcz@circumstances.run
            wrote last edited by
            #23

            @alice Enter your name as [object Object] and let them try to find a bug.

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

              themightygit@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #24

              @alice a friend of mine changed his middle name to 'undefined', it caused so many problems he had to change it back within a year.

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              • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

                @alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs. πŸ‘€

                asprinkleofsage@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #25

                @theorangetheme @alice lol somebody has a toddler

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                  Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                  Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                  Using VPNs set to different locations.

                  Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                  Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                  If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                  badrihippo@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  badrihippo@fosstodon.org
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                  #26

                  @alice thank you! I've always wondered whether to put random made-up data but hearing the reasoning and logic spelt out like this is convincing me to actually start. Especially commonsense things like "mess with the fields that don't matter in their service to you"

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                  • themightygit@mstdn.socialT themightygit@mstdn.social

                    @alice a friend of mine changed his middle name to 'undefined', it caused so many problems he had to change it back within a year.

                    kirtai@tech.lgbtK This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @TheMightyGit @alice
                    Reminds me of someone who had the last name "Null" and had similar problems.

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                      Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                      Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                      Using VPNs set to different locations.

                      Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                      Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                      If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                      penguinrebellion@tldr.nettime.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      penguinrebellion@tldr.nettime.org
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                      #28

                      @alice

                      Wrt #PII, It might be a good idea to avoid entering easily identifiable trash data, and use generators instead. E.g.:

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                      • Fake Name Generator
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                      • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

                        @alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs. πŸ‘€

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                        #29

                        @theorangetheme @alice

                        'and then?'

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                        • amorpheus@kind.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @neoluddite @aj @alice Just wondered what might happen if enough self-hosting people were to add an zero opacity image tag on their public indexable pages illustrating a d*ckbutt and having alt attribute set to Donald J. Trump.

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                          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                            πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

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                            #31

                            @alice

                            yes, yes, a thousand times, yes!

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                            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                              The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                              Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                              Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                              Using VPNs set to different locations.

                              Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                              Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                              If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                              mccrankyface@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              mccrankyface@beige.party
                              wrote last edited by
                              #32

                              This is the way. I've been doing this since 1997.

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                              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                                Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                                Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                                Using VPNs set to different locations.

                                Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                                Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                                If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                                gorfram@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
                                gorfram@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
                                gorfram@beige.party
                                wrote last edited by
                                #33

                                @alice Non-tech-savvy question:
                                Is there something special about 1970-01-01, or is it just an example of an arbitrary incorrect birthdate? Would it foul things up just as much if I entered, say, 1984-04-01?

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                                • madengineering@mastodon.cloudM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #34

                                  @miguelpergamon @alice No need for poison, just....Data is too valuable, so we're going to substitute the discount version, Ensign Anecdote.

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                                  • madengineering@mastodon.cloudM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #35

                                    @miguelpergamon @alice Yes, but he also recommended eating rocks because he found this one blog somewhere, so you'll have to forgive me for being a little skeptical of everything he says.

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                                    • gorfram@beige.partyG gorfram@beige.party

                                      @alice Non-tech-savvy question:
                                      Is there something special about 1970-01-01, or is it just an example of an arbitrary incorrect birthdate? Would it foul things up just as much if I entered, say, 1984-04-01?

                                      patrick@mendeddrum.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      patrick@mendeddrum.org
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                                      #36

                                      @Gorfram @alice 1970-01-01 is the first date (Unix)computers start to count from and as such a system often falls back to it when no data is available.

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                                      • madengineering@mastodon.cloudM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #37

                                        @miguelpergamon @alice That's different, that guy's got superpowers.

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                                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                          πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

                                          rossthelesser@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          rossthelesser@mastodon.social
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #38

                                          @alice How do?

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