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  3. In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse.

In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse.

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    In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.

    Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.

    geepawhill@mastodon.socialG hendrikstier@chaos.socialH hypostase@bsd.networkH vmateusimeon@mastodont.catV theonedoc@tech.lgbtT 31 Replies Last reply
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    • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

      In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.

      Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.

      geepawhill@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Strandjunker Yeah. "Oh."

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      • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

        In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.

        Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.

        hendrikstier@chaos.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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        @Strandjunker advanced -> ad vance? cannot be good 😬

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        • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

          In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.

          Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.

          hypostase@bsd.networkH This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Strandjunker
          I've been feeling it for a while, but every time we've not all actually died in a fire, I keep thinking I must have been mistaken.

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          • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

            In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.

            Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.

            vmateusimeon@mastodont.catV This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Strandjunker això deu funcionar com el capitalisme que avança i avança cap a l'abisme conscient que el camí que segueix va, precisament, cap a l'abisme però actua de l'única manera que sap i pot actuar. Només té aquestes instruccions i per sobreviure les ha de complir obligatòriament... sabent que això el destruirà.

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            • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

              In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.

              Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.

              theonedoc@tech.lgbtT This user is from outside of this forum
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              @Strandjunker it's an empire and all empires are bound to fall.

              lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL edgar@norcal.socialE 2 Replies Last reply
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              • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.

                Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.

                israajamal@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Strandjunker A profound disappointment in humanity.

                When pain and injustice become commonplace in the eyes of the world, no amount of material progress can define true civilization. Civilization is built on humanity, not on money or technological advancement. 🥺🇵🇸

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                • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                  In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.

                  Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.

                  assimilateborg@kind.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Strandjunker no you have not, you need to watch it all!!!
                  ALL OF IT

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                  • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                    In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.

                    Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.

                    netraven@hear-me.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @Strandjunker but wait, there's more.

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                    • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                      In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.

                      Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.

                      thriftwicker@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @Strandjunker Advanced is subjective.

                      When I look around at society I tend to doubt the enlightenment was ever a thing.

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                      • hendrikstier@chaos.socialH hendrikstier@chaos.social

                        @Strandjunker advanced -> ad vance? cannot be good 😬

                        makja@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @hendrikstier @Strandjunker where does the "d" go? His couch?

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                        • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                          In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.

                          Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.

                          bolt@thecanadian.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Strandjunker Jared Diamond's 2005 'Collapse' book is much more readable than his 'Guns, Germs and Steel' and walks though some historical collapse scenarios. It has been over a decade since I read it so I'm sure the field has evolved and i might be misremembering, but the main gist I recall is there are too many rich people in advanced societies and too much pressure gets put on ecological systems that allowed the civ to succeed in the first place.

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                          • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                            In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.

                            Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.

                            ericbono@exquisite.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @Strandjunker

                            I read 700 pages of frickin Jacques Barzun for this‽

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                            • makja@mastodon.socialM makja@mastodon.social

                              @hendrikstier @Strandjunker where does the "d" go? His couch?

                              hendrikstier@chaos.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @makja @Strandjunker stochastically…

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                              • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                                In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.

                                Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.

                                fishnameddog@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @Strandjunker can't decide if the US government is currently being more or less ridiculous than the Romans appointing a horse to the Senate

                                ewrksc@ohai.socialE transitbiker@urbanists.socialT kj6evv@mastodon.hams.socialK wingedsnake@mastodon.berlinW 4 Replies Last reply
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                                • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                                  In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.

                                  Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.

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                                  @Strandjunker

                                  Greed and Climate Change work together well.

                                  Stay tuned.

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                                  • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                                    In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.

                                    Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.

                                    xs4me2@mastodon.socialX This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @Strandjunker

                                    Evil, greed, hate and stupidity for the perfect ingredients for it.... always have been...

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                                    • fishnameddog@mastodon.socialF fishnameddog@mastodon.social

                                      @Strandjunker can't decide if the US government is currently being more or less ridiculous than the Romans appointing a horse to the Senate

                                      ewrksc@ohai.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @FishNamedDog @Strandjunker (leaving aside the reality of Inciatius' term in the Senate), Caligula was Emperor in the 30's AD; Alaric's sack of Rome wasn't until four centuries later.

                                      Settle in for the long haul, is what I'm saying

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                                      • fishnameddog@mastodon.socialF fishnameddog@mastodon.social

                                        @Strandjunker can't decide if the US government is currently being more or less ridiculous than the Romans appointing a horse to the Senate

                                        transitbiker@urbanists.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @FishNamedDog @Strandjunker republicans are putting on a coup that superficially resembles a hapless clown show. Was the horse part of a coup attempt?

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                                        • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                                          In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.

                                          Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.

                                          transitbiker@urbanists.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @Strandjunker but just imagine the value we’re creating for shareholders!

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