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Wow some terrible reporting about Google's latest horrible ideas about how to distort information access in the name of "convenience" (or something):

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  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

    Wow some terrible reporting about Google's latest horrible ideas about how to distort information access in the name of "convenience" (or something):

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    Google Search as you know it is over | TechCrunch

    Google is transforming Search from a list of links into an AI-powered experience filled with conversational answers, autonomous agents, and interactive interfaces — a shift that could further reduce traffic to publishers across the web.

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    @emilymbender 2.5 billion users a month they claim.
    Having an AI summary forced into every search doesn't make the searcher a user of the tech. How many people simply ignore the summary?

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    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

      Wow some terrible reporting about Google's latest horrible ideas about how to distort information access in the name of "convenience" (or something):

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      Google Search as you know it is over | TechCrunch

      Google is transforming Search from a list of links into an AI-powered experience filled with conversational answers, autonomous agents, and interactive interfaces — a shift that could further reduce traffic to publishers across the web.

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      gerhardd@olching.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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      @emilymbender The good news: nobody needs #google. I've blocked all their MTAs, and resisted using their apps for quite some time. No problems so far.

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      • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

        Wow some terrible reporting about Google's latest horrible ideas about how to distort information access in the name of "convenience" (or something):

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        Google Search as you know it is over | TechCrunch

        Google is transforming Search from a list of links into an AI-powered experience filled with conversational answers, autonomous agents, and interactive interfaces — a shift that could further reduce traffic to publishers across the web.

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        TechCrunch (techcrunch.com)

        A short thread
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        cockburn@mastodon.moule.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
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        @emilymbender google is so unreliable now, it's time for them to lose their worldwide use of "google" as a verb.

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        • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

          NO NO NO NO NO! Flashy polished looking webpages that no one has accountability for run absolutely counter to the common good when it comes to a health information ecosystem AND an informed public.

          (Also, "Antigravity"? Yeah, you want us to think this is very cool science fiction and/or magic. Not buying it.)

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          @emilymbender Exactly!

          I understand that business value propositions change over time, but going from "we disrupted search by making a simple interface" to "we ruptured search by making our simple interface complicated (and terrible)" is. well, it's certainly. a choice.

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          • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

            How infantilizing --- you thought you were looking to find something that someone else wrote on the web. But woah! Now you've been "dropped into" an "interactive experience". Yeah, Google can just fuck right off with that.

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            @emilymbender
            Yeah, if somebody is still using Google Search, now is the time to get off it. There are other search engines out there.

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            • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

              Wow some terrible reporting about Google's latest horrible ideas about how to distort information access in the name of "convenience" (or something):

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              Google Search as you know it is over | TechCrunch

              Google is transforming Search from a list of links into an AI-powered experience filled with conversational answers, autonomous agents, and interactive interfaces — a shift that could further reduce traffic to publishers across the web.

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              TechCrunch (techcrunch.com)

              A short thread
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              roadskater@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @emilymbender I saw someone toot about that Tuesday afternoon, and my reaction to the article was, "So TechCrunch is rewriting Google press releases?" Not a critical thought expressed in the article. IIRC, no quotes from anyone at all, positive or negative. Just a list of supposedly useful features and enhancements.

              Feh.

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              • S shadsterling@mastodon.social

                @romli @hamishb @emilymbender for the AI overview that precedes any actual search results, that link doesn’t describe a persistent opt-out, only a per-search bypass with “ -ai”. Which is a start

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                @ShadSterling @romli @hamishb @emilymbender use duckduckgo and you have simple ai opt out .

                But anyway all this suppose there will be something left to search for on the web. Nowadays most often than not the first 10 links returned are AI generated web site slop.
                Given that this slop is now used to generate further down the drain AI sites, the untrustworthy garbage'll soon supersede 100-1 trustworthy sources.

                Maybe we'll have to come back to human indexed content of a curated list of sites.

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                • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                  Here is where it really starts to show that this journalist is just lightly paraphrasing a press release. "Links will become an afterthought," will they? What is your evidence for that confident statement about the future?

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                  @emilymbender alternatively the intended meaning could be "links become an afterthought for Google, because Google doesn't think about links anymore"?

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                  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                    For one final shudder: Pichai here seems to want to think this is helping the world somehow? Gah.

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                    @emilymbender
                    More rubbish from Google's Pichai.

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                    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                      Here is where it really starts to show that this journalist is just lightly paraphrasing a press release. "Links will become an afterthought," will they? What is your evidence for that confident statement about the future?

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                      @emilymbender And here is that press release... https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/products/search/search-io-2026/

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                      • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                        Wow some terrible reporting about Google's latest horrible ideas about how to distort information access in the name of "convenience" (or something):

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                        Google Search as you know it is over | TechCrunch

                        Google is transforming Search from a list of links into an AI-powered experience filled with conversational answers, autonomous agents, and interactive interfaces — a shift that could further reduce traffic to publishers across the web.

                        favicon

                        TechCrunch (techcrunch.com)

                        A short thread
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                        allancavanagh@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @emilymbender so… search is now Google Wave but with robots.

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                        • gerhardd@olching.socialG gerhardd@olching.social

                          @emilymbender The good news: nobody needs #google. I've blocked all their MTAs, and resisted using their apps for quite some time. No problems so far.

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                          @emilymbender@dair-community.social @GerhardD@olching.social eh, gmail is still biiig, i wouldn't outright block it (but it would be fair to send straight to spam lol)
                          most of the stuff's unneeded tho ye
                          there's very little that's actually needed, it's just the Default Effect + ecosystem effect

                          some people do need it tho, much like some people need microslop's stuff
                          usually when they're already invested, and used to things, it would be
                          possible to migrate away but that would take a whole lot of effort for only moral gain

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                          • S shadsterling@mastodon.social

                            @romli @hamishb @emilymbender for the AI overview that precedes any actual search results, that link doesn’t describe a persistent opt-out, only a per-search bypass with “ -ai”. Which is a start

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                            @ShadSterling @romli @hamishb @emilymbender

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                            No Shit Sherlock – Get this Extension for 🦊 Firefox (en-US)

                            Download No Shit Sherlock for Firefox. Filter out AI slop and social media spam from YouTube and DuckDuckGo search results

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                            Would love to know if this works for you!

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                            • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                              For one final shudder: Pichai here seems to want to think this is helping the world somehow? Gah.

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                              @emilymbender

                              It sounds better than the truth. This helps Google, the ad-company, to better shape the “experience” as it best suits their paying ad-customers.

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                              • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                Not satisfied to cut people off from the important sense-making of looking at information in its context and finding and navigating different perspectives (what "AI overviews" do), Google also wants to tell you what to search for:

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                                @emilymbender
                                "rather than making you decide" is such a fancy way of saying "we've removed your choice".

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                                  @Qybat @emilymbender if no one sees the ads, the companies will stop buying adspace. That's not what google wants. So I guess they will embed the ads in the search results.

                                  And the web will have finally evolved to be just like television. Just a bit more interactive because you'll be allowed to purchase directly what you see on screen (but probably nothing else).

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                                  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                    More stenography here. Google starting shoving the "AI Overviews" into query results as an opt-out situation. That is, you have to take action to have them not pop up. I don't doubt they are *shown to* 2.5 billion monthly users, but that doesn't mean they are used by as many or desired by them.

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                                    @emilymbender this is enshittification of the next level to turn us into brainless puppets on their strings

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                                    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                      Wow some terrible reporting about Google's latest horrible ideas about how to distort information access in the name of "convenience" (or something):

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      Google Search as you know it is over | TechCrunch

                                      Google is transforming Search from a list of links into an AI-powered experience filled with conversational answers, autonomous agents, and interactive interfaces — a shift that could further reduce traffic to publishers across the web.

                                      favicon

                                      TechCrunch (techcrunch.com)

                                      A short thread
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                                      @emilymbender Is this an article of press release? Either way it's AWFUL.

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                                      • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                        How infantilizing --- you thought you were looking to find something that someone else wrote on the web. But woah! Now you've been "dropped into" an "interactive experience". Yeah, Google can just fuck right off with that.

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                                        @emilymbender

                                        @energisch_

                                        I stopped reading after "Google Search will drop users".

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                                        • yala@degrowth.socialY yala@degrowth.social

                                          @emilymbender

                                          @energisch_

                                          I stopped reading after "Google Search will drop users".

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                                          @yala fits perfectly @emilymbender

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